-m seems to be working OK.  I have several large nets defined as local. 
In fact, mostly I'm concerned with local-local latency which are all
part of my 10.x.x.x network defined with -m

If latency is only during the handshake it's not as interesting to me
as say... a rolling 5 min average of the session.  I'd still like to see
it work again, but if it represented the more of the session than simply
the handshake that would be ideal.  I'll add that to my wish list I sent
you offline :)

Thanks Burton.  Have a great weekend!

Gary


>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3/31/2006 3:12:32 PM >>>
Latency is solely based on the handshake - that's the only time we can
be
reasonably sure that there's no processing occurring on the packet and
hence
we are actually seeing solely network (+ tcp/ip stack) latency...

First thought - check your local subnet settings (-m) ... We only
track
sessions for 'nonFullyRemoteSession' (i.e. at least one side is
local).

-----Burton

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Gary
Gatten
Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 1:39 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [email protected] 
Subject: RE: [Ntop] -o disables latency stats?

Sorry, I should've clarified what interface I was referring to.

I'm running netflow and standard pcap.  In theory they're both seeing
the
same .. traffic, so I 'm kinda comparing pros and cons of each method. 
The
latency is interesting to me.  I noticed on the netflow interface
latency
was always blank - I posted another question about that issue.

This issue is concerning the "real" interface using pcap.  Until I set
the
-t 5 -K and -o flags, I had latency stats.  When I set these flags, no
more
latency.  I guess it could be the K or t 5, but I was assuming it had
more
to do with the -o - maybe it was looking at interframe time between
MACS.
But, since you said it's at the TCP layer - then I don't know.  What
would
you need from me to look into this further?

Another question you made me think of:  is the latency stat fixed and
based
solely on the handshake times - or is it a dynamic average over the
life of
the session (or some length, like last 5 mins) of the session?

Gary


>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3/31/2006 12:24:44 PM >>>
Latency is different for netFlow / non-netFlow

For non-netFlow, it's based on the timestamps inside the packets, i.e.
the
SYN and SYN|ACK of the tcp 3-way handshake, from handleTCPSession() in
session.c:

    if(tp->th_flags == TH_SYN) {
      theSession->nwLatency.tv_sec = h->ts.tv_sec;
      theSession->nwLatency.tv_usec = h->ts.tv_usec;
      theSession->sessionState = FLAG_STATE_SYN;
    } 

And then the block beginning:

  /* Latency measurement */
  if((tp->th_flags == (TH_SYN|TH_ACK)) && (theSession->sessionState ==
FLAG_STATE_SYN))  {
    theSession->sessionState = FLAG_FLAG_STATE_SYN_ACK;
  } else if((tp->th_flags == TH_ACK) && (theSession->sessionState ==
FLAG_FLAG_STATE_SYN_ACK)) {
    if(h->ts.tv_sec >= theSession->nwLatency.tv_sec) { ...
  }

For netFlow, it's just stored - IF it is part of the flow to begin
with.


There's nothing specific in the netFlow plugin WRT -o
(myGlobals.runningPref.dontTrustMACaddr).

You could turn on the debug line in netFlowPlugin.c:

      /*
        traceEvent(CONST_TRACE_INFO, "DEBUG: Nw Latency=%d.%d [%s:%d
->
%s:%d]",
        record->nw_latency_sec, record->nw_latency_usec,
        srcHost->hostNumIpAddress, sport,
        dstHost->hostNumIpAddress, dport);
      */

(remove the /* and */ so it's no longer a comment) - that would show if
it's
even seeing the data (vs associating incorrectly.


-----Burton

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Gary
Gatten
Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 4:08 PM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: [Ntop] -o disables latency stats?

FreeBSD 6.0, nTop 3.2.1, compiled from CVS - I think....

I'm collecting data through a cisco SPAN port.  This port is a mirror
of the
our primary Frame-Relay WAN router interface.  The idea is to see
global WAN
stats.

Without -o I have latency stats, however, "all" the traffic gets
associated
with the router.  Not good.  Restarted with -o and I have all the
individual
hosts I wanted, but now there's no latency stats.

Am I missing something, or is this just the way it is?

Thanks!

Gary





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