In the USA, I think there is still a lot of case-law that needs to be established about who owns and can access your data. These things are slowly getting through the courts.
Until those decisions are made, and in the case of multi-jurisdictional issues as you point out, I'm still seeing a lot of resistance. On the other hand, small customers of mine with little proprietary data (if any), already using SalesForce and Quicken Online - they think Office 365 is great! Except for the change from CapEx to OpEx. From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of James Rankin Sent: Tuesday, June 4, 2013 11:07 AM To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] RE: Microsoft's 'Blue' servers Hmmm, sounds like MS' approach is that they've decided that The Cloud is unavoidable, or will at least represent the "sensible choice" in future For dev and test environments, sure, and maybe smaller enterprises without regulatory requirements and/or no budget to spare for private infrastructure, but throw in any kind of data security and integrity - particularly anything that has implications related to storing information in other global jurisdictions - and I just get the feeling that it won't take off as much as everyone would have us believe. I'm also becoming less convinced of Microsoft's capability to respond to customer requirements, although to be honest that's exhibiting more in the consumer end at the moment than business. I'm not known as any kind of trend-predictor or tech commentator, though, so I'm just stating my gut feelings :-) On 4 June 2013 15:52, <rodtr...@myitforum.com<mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com>> wrote: They will never position it as something you HAVE to do or else (like Google). They are developing the technology so that when you're ready, it will be ready for your needs. The Cloud leader will be the one that can show "why" it makes sense to move, not that moving is the only choice. Sent from Microsoft Surface Pro From: James Rankin Sent: Tuesday, June 4, 2013 9:33 AM To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com> But the expectation is that "years later" everyone will go cloud-based of some sort? I can see that not flying for a lot of orgs - if MS take the "shove it down your throat regardless" option they did with some of the Win8 features, it might change the landscape somewhat Just my ill-informed and quickly-formulated opinion :-) On 4 June 2013 15:27, Michael B. Smith <mich...@smithcons.com<mailto:mich...@smithcons.com>> wrote: Microsoft wants to drive you to the cloud. Some people will settle on a single version of the software and then move years later. There is no ostensible requirement to keep pace with Microsoft. From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>] On Behalf Of James Rankin Sent: Tuesday, June 4, 2013 9:53 AM To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com> Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] RE: Microsoft's 'Blue' servers Is "cloud the only way to go" going to be feasible? Regulatory and other requirements will mean there will still be a lot of on-premise stuff. Or will "private cloud" gear count as part of the "cloud" concept? On the MS front, someone sent me this article today - from a while back but still fascinating reading http://www.vanityfair.com/business/2012/08/microsoft-lost-mojo-steve-ballmer#/1 On 4 June 2013 14:34, <rodtr...@myitforum.com<mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com>> wrote: The new mantra is "Cloud First", which means all development has shifted to provide functionality with Azure first, then on-prem after. In less than 2 years, due to Microsoft's dev shift and due to IT no longer being able to keep up with updates from the accelerated release schedule, a subscription model (Cloud) will be the only way to go. Sent from Microsoft Surface Pro From: Andrew S. Baker Sent: Tuesday, June 4, 2013 8:27 AM To: ntsysadm The focus is on cloud integration... ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker<http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker> Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations & Information Security) for the SMB market... On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 10:48 PM, Michael B. Smith <mich...@smithcons.com<mailto:mich...@smithcons.com>> wrote: Nothing I can say. From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>] On Behalf Of Ryan Finnesey Sent: Monday, June 3, 2013 10:20 PM To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com> Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: Microsoft's 'Blue' servers What are your thoughts? From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Michael B. Smith Sent: Monday, June 3, 2013 12:47 PM To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com> Subject: [NTSysADM] Microsoft's 'Blue' servers Microsoft's 'Blue' servers: What's coming when | ZDNet: http://www.zdnet.com/microsofts-blue-servers-whats-coming-when-7000016224/ -- James Rankin Technical Consultant (ACA, CCA, MCTS) http://appsensebigot.blogspot.co.uk<http://appsensebigot.blogspot.co.uk/> -- James Rankin Technical Consultant (ACA, CCA, MCTS) http://appsensebigot.blogspot.co.uk<http://appsensebigot.blogspot.co.uk/> -- James Rankin Technical Consultant (ACA, CCA, MCTS) http://appsensebigot.blogspot.co.uk<http://appsensebigot.blogspot.co.uk/>
