" How about new server and a nas box for iscsi – then you get the best of both and you can selectively upgrade as required." I don't see that coming in under 5k-
Jean-Paul Natola From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] NAS or Server Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 16:40:26 +0000 We were told that 2012 R2 could act as an AD host – and we were told by the same storage vendor that they expected to start shipping units in 3rd quarter this year. For speed you will get the latest SMB speeds with the 2012 server which will help performance – some nas boxes seem to use ‘legacy’ protocols which do not offer the performance. We have clients with QNAP / Netgear etc and they are very happy. Now that MS are moving to a much faster refresh of servers we can probably expect the protocols to get tweaked more often – so a proper server might be a better idea in the long run. How about new server and a nas box for iscsi – then you get the best of both and you can selectively upgrade as required. From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Eric Morrison Sent: 20 June 2013 16:51 To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] NAS or Server I was thinking of suggesting this… I use Server 2012 as a file share and an iSCSI target for my Hyper-V hosts in my lab and it’s awesome. Also, the dedup of my file share has reduced the size by 54%. Can’t wait for 2012 R2 so that I can also dedup my VHDX files as well! From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Woody Blackman Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 10:44 AM To: '[email protected]' Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] NAS or Server +1 With a small environment and limited cash, I would want to maximize resources and options. The features and flexibility of Storage Server 2012 makes a pretty strong argument. http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/jj643303.aspx http://searchstorage.techtarget.com/news/2240169657/Windows-Storage-Server-2012-adds-enterprise-grade-features http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/video/windows-server-2012-storage-evolved-for-hyper-v.aspx From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Art DeKneef Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 8:07 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] NAS or Server Are there any other requirements you have before everyone makes suggestions? For a NAS device I like the Qnap devices. Since you were debating between a NAS and a Windows Server, why not look at a Windows Storage Server type device? Since you are looking at Dell check out the PowerVault NX line. From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of J- P Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 7:45 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] NAS or Server That was the basis of the original question, NAS or Server NAS must haves, non-negotiable; Redundant Power 2 NICS and or a slot to put a spare NIC AD Support RAID X number of supported connections MINIMUM 4 bays, prefer 8 - Now in retrospect your typical server already has everything mentioned above Jean-Paul Natola To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] NAS or Server From: [email protected] Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 10:25:22 -0400 For something that's just doing file storage I'd probably lean towards a NAS device. If you want the flexibility to add additional features (DNS, DHCP, DC,, print server, etc.....) I'd go with a dedicated server. Also what features do you need in a NAS? Nic teaming, iSCSI support, dual power supplies, RAID levels? All of that will determine you options. On the low end you could get something like this : http://www.amazon.com/Synology-DiskStation-Diskless-Attached-DS1513/dp/B00CM9K7E6/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1371736486&sr=1-1&keywords=Synology+DiskStation+DS1513%2B Christopher Bodnar Enterprise Architect I, Corporate Office of Technology:Enterprise Architecture and Engineering Services Tel 610-807-6459 3900 Burgess Place, Bethlehem, PA 18017 [email protected] The Guardian Life Insurance Company of America www.guardianlife.com From: J- P <[email protected]> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Date: 06/19/2013 08:47 PM Subject: [NTSysADM] NAS or Server Sent by: [email protected] Company background, 30 yrs old, started with 2 guys, went to to computers in the late 90's had about 20 users, 1 W2k server and a 120 gb SNAP- Fast forward , 2008, 30 users, sql 2005 DB (consultant at the time ) installs a new 1U 2003 80gb raid server for sql DB , and another 1U server with a mirrored 750gb drive , serving as DC/File/Print/DNS Server. Fast Forward 2013 - single site , single domain 1. ESXi hosting a VM 2008 Citrix TS, and a VM 2003 DC (no storage really available) 1. Windows 2012 Hyper-V host, SAS mirror for host OS, raid 10 2TB for guest OS', currently one guest, 2012 with Exchange 2013. Now there are 60 users, (still using original 2003 for File Print and DNS) and storage demands, as we all know are increasing exponentially, so I get the "we need more storage " so this begs the question, new server 2u (R710 maybe) , or a NAS 8 or 12 bays maybe- As an aside, majority of the users use basic office files, but there are about a dozen that deal with CAD Audio and Video I want this solution to be good for 3-5 years Jean-Paul Natola ----------------------------------------- This message, and any attachments to it, may contain information that is privileged, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. 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