Along the lines of " one more service running that (theoretically) isn't 
needed", 
http://blogs.technet.com/b/jlosey/archive/2011/02/02/why-you-should-leave-ipv6-alone.aspx

David Lum
Sr. Systems Engineer // NWEATM
Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Kurt Buff
Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2013 5:35 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] A very good article to read : Features Removed or 
Deprecated in Windows Server 2012 R2 Preview

I'm not a developer, so can't comment on that, but will take your word for it.

However, as a sysadmin and user, I am puzzled by the fact that MSFT seems 
unable to bring out products for business use that work well with DDNS and 
FQDNs. as opposed to NetBIOS names.

Also, from both an aesthetic and a security policy point of view, I think it 
would make sense to get rid of it - it's just one more service running that 
(theoretically) isn't needed.

However, WINS hasn't given me problems since at least NT4, and I'm still 
running it under Win2k8 R2, so I don't really care much one way or the other - 
as I said, it's more amusing than anything else.

Kurt

On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 2:39 PM, Michael B. Smith 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> WINS just makes life so much easier as a developer. Seriously.
>
> Each product they try to remove WINS dependencies from, it breaks stuff and 
> adds more complexity.
>
> For example, you can run Exchange without WINS (and I'm referring to a 
> complex Exchange deployment - multiple domains, discontiguous namespaces, 
> etc.etc.) - but the complexity of configuration Is Just Not Worth It.
>
> It's a heck of a lot cheaper to run WINS - and less likely to break.
>
> To paraphrase Brian's comments - if you have an IT organization that
> thinks getting rid of WINS is their top priority - then they are
> wrong. :)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kurt Buff
> Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2013 2:51 PM
> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] A very good article to read : Features Removed
> or Deprecated in Windows Server 2012 R2 Preview
>
> Didn't say I don't like it - MSFT has in the past threatened to remove it, 
> and it's amusing to note that they've never followed through.
>
> Kurt
>
> On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Jonathan Link 
> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> Well, be that as it may, Kurt still doesn't like it.
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 1:43 PM, Brian Desmond
>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> +1
>>>
>>> I tell most customers who think removing WINS from their environment
>>> is a good use of their time to find a more worthwhile project to
>>> invest in. WINS is dead simple, solves a problem, has practically no
>>> infrastructure overhead, and requires nearly no maintenance.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Brian Desmond
>>> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
>>>
>>> w – 312.625.1438 | c – 312.731.3132
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Michael B.
>>> Smith
>>> Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 10:53 PM
>>> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
>>> Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] A very good article to read : Features
>>> Removed or Deprecated in Windows Server 2012 R2 Preview
>>>
>>> Pffft.
>>>
>>> That isn't going anywhere, anytime soon.
>>>
>>> I expect it to be around after I retire.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kurt Buff
>>> Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 11:10 PM
>>> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
>>> Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] A very good article to read : Features
>>> Removed or Deprecated in Windows Server 2012 R2 Preview
>>>
>>> I see WINS isn't on that list. :)
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 5:08 PM, Michael B. Smith
>>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
>>> wrote:
>>> > Features Removed or Deprecated in Windows Server 2012 R2 Preview
>>> >
>>> > http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dn303411.aspx
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>



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