But what about your NDA regarding your NDA? Can't be too cautious y'know. ;)
- WJR On Sun, Sep 1, 2013 at 6:42 PM, Daniel Chenault <[email protected]> wrote: > *shrug* I don’t feel the need to trot out my bona fides and that does not > even take into account the NDA that is still binding on me. Either what > I've said makes sense at face value or it doesn't. I don't particularly > care how you feel about it; feel free to ignore it completely if that makes > you happy. Heck, declare victory and have a ticker tape parade if that is > what will complete your world. This is not the proper venue for a pissing > match. > > > > -----Original Message----- From: Ken Schaefer > Sent: Sunday, September 01, 2013 6:25 PM > > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] Re: Finally. > > You've designed "more secure" systems at scale (40K+ employees) in an > information heavy organisation (bank, accountancy etc.)? > > Cheers > Ken > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:listsadmin@lists.** > myitforum.com <[email protected]>] On Behalf Of Kurt Buff > Sent: Monday, 2 September 2013 4:01 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] Re: Finally. > > Aside from reading all those Le Carre novels? > > I've already designed more secure systems than were obviously in place, as > have many people on this list, perhaps including you. > > Kurt > > On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 7:35 PM, Ken Schaefer <[email protected]> wrote: > >> And what are your qualifications/experience, that allow you to make >> such a call? (I’m assuming that you have no inside knowledge of how >> the NSA works, and are relying on the public speculation/allegations >> at el Reg etc.) >> >> >> >> Cheers >> >> Ken >> >> >> >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:listsadmin@lists.**myitforum.com <[email protected]> >> ] >> On Behalf Of Kurt Buff >> Sent: Sunday, 1 September 2013 12:03 AM >> To: [email protected] >> >> >> Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] Re: Finally. >> >> >> >> On the evidence, absolutely. >> >> For an intelligence/espionage operation to be so thoroughly pwned >> because of such amazingly poor internal operational security, there >> can be only one conclusion - management responsible for internal security >> should be fired. >> >> I'm just glad they weren't, and I hope that what Snowden took is >> enough to bring them down, and that it's all revealed to the public. >> >> >> >> Kurt >> >> >> >> On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 4:20 AM, Ken Schaefer <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> So, you’re saying that the feared NSA, which has a bunch of >> un-discovered rootkits, which able to undertake some of the most >> advanced espionage in the world, is managed by idiots? Seriously? >> >> >> >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:listsadmin@lists.**myitforum.com <[email protected]> >> ] >> On Behalf Of Jon Harris >> Sent: Saturday, 31 August 2013 6:17 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] Re: Finally. >> >> >> >> Generally from I have seen in state (Florida) organizations is that >> they don't like promoting anyone but a moron into supervisory positions. >> Occasionally someone will make a mistake and promote an intelligent >> person but not often. I would suspect this is the case with the Feds >> as well (worked with them too). Several times I have seen them hire >> those with less brains and longer tongues and large lips over those >> with brains. As long as this keeps happening then we will continue to >> see this happen. It will be a long time before they get rid of all >> the defective management personnel as I would think private companies >> would have little to gain by keeping them (maybe why they seem to >> concentrate in public jobs?) and in a government job it is MUCH harder to >> get rid of them. >> >> Jon >> >> >> ______________________________**__ >> >> Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2013 14:34:15 -0400 >> Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] Re: Finally. >> From: [email protected] >> To: [email protected] >> >> +13 >> >> On Aug 30, 2013 11:05 AM, "Kurt Buff" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 10:52 AM, Micheal Espinola Jr >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >>> I accidentally hit CTRL-Enter before finishing that email... and >>> apparently that's a shortcut to instantly-send a message in Gmail. Yay! >>> I >>> love learning new things... but anyways - So, yea, this Forbes article >>> was >>> the first I have seen that highlights the real underlying IT problem >>> regarding Snowden - aside from other OT issues. >>> >> <snip> >> >>> >>>> I may have missed some article by someone else somewhere, but Its to >>>> see Forbes 'get it' before anyone else... >>>> >>>> >>>> http://www.forbes.com/sites/**timworstall/2013/08/30/if-the-** >>>> nsa-really<http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2013/08/30/if-the-nsa-really> >>>> -let-edward-snowden-do-this-**then-someone-needs-to-be-**fired/ >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Espi >>>> >>> >> >> Agreed- massive failure on the part of many people in the NSA in >> implementing security procedures. >> >> Of course, what Snowden showed, beyond that, is the massive failure >> that is government policy and practices regarding >> surveillance/espionage in general, so I'm actually quite happy Snowden >> was able to do what he did. >> >> Kurt >> >> >> > > > >
