And you don't smack them with a rolled up newspaper? Terminology matters...
:) On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 1:00 PM, Kennedy, Jim <[email protected]> wrote: > Regarding your last comment. Most of my staff call our Remote Desktop > system ‘VPN’. In fact several in my department refer to it that way. > > > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of Jon D > Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 3:55 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] VPN and high bandwidth applications > > > > Thanks for everyone's responses so far! Responses below: > > > >>>Wouldn't something like Citrix XenApp offload the performance hit onto the >>> local network for your remote users? > > Good suggestion. We're actually already using it(have been for 10+ years), > but end-users hate it. > > I might end up trying something like XenDesktop and see if they like that > better just for remote access.... > > > > > >>>It is, however, something that WAN accelerators were designed to help >>> mitigate. > > I saw that Riverbed has a mobile client which sounds interesting. > > > > > >>>So normally the SQL traffic is between the users desktop and the sql >>> backend? > > Yeah for some of the apps the traffic from the workstation can easily hit > 100megs doing a normal operation or query. > > > > > >>>A VPN is just a network link. Nothing more, nothing less. Think of it >>> like a really long Ethernet cable. > > Very good point. I'm over thinking it. I think the end-users have psyched me > out by keep saying all other companies have VPNs. It seems like using a VPN > w/o something like RDP or Citrix is only useful for simple apps like > outlook/word/excel/etc. > > > > > > Summary: Sounds like a VPN is what it is, and something like Citrix is the > current best solution for chatty apps... > > > > > Thanks, > > Jon > > > > On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 1:22 PM, Ben Scott <[email protected]> wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 12:09 PM, Jon D <[email protected]> wrote: >> I'm not an expert with VPNs... > > A VPN is just a network link. Nothing more, nothing less. Think of > it like a really long Ethernet cable. > > >> Is it possible to have end-users use any sort of VPN technology to access >> high-bandwidth apps? > > (1) I'm with others in the "Use a VPN to access the network > remotely; use RDP (or Citrix or whatever) to run applications that > aren't WAN friendly" camp. I see them as complementary technologies, > not replacements for each other. > > (2) Bandwidth is only part of the equation. Latency (AKA packet > delay AKA round trip time) is just as important. Indeed, latency is > usually more of a problem these days, because everybody's talking > bandwidth and ignoring latency, so you have to fight just to find > someone who understands the problem. In other words: If you have a > gigabit link with RTT at 300 ms, it will still feel like an old analog > modem. > > -- Ben > >
