Regarding the contact not answering emails, there should be a manager to
contact on the case, too.  I had an issue with my contact not responding to
a voice mail after 48 hours.  Called the manager, and never had a problem
again.  The call happened to be about getting an extension, too.


On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 2:40 AM, Steve Carter <[email protected]> wrote:

> I got an extension (2 actually) a couple of years ago without a
> problem. I just asked our contact for the extension. That might be a
> problem for you if he's not answering your emails!
>
> Steve
>
> > On 18 Apr 2014, at 01:27, Sam Cayze <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > You guys jinxed me, I just got a letter a few days ago too.
> >
> > Here's the kicker, the contact assigned to my case won't return my
> emails or
> > phone calls.
> >
> > They only gave me to the end of the month to finish the audit.
> > Normally that would be ok, but I'm a 1 man IT shop, SWAMPED with an XP >
> 7
> > migration that I'm desperately trying to finish before the next patch
> > Tuesday.
> > Not only that, but our license counts/usage are changing everyday due to
> the
> > that.
> >
> > Ever heard of companies getting an extension?  I would hope in this case
> > they'd grant one... since I'm busy doing what they are begging/forcing
> > companies to do.
> >
> > Tia,
> > Sam
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected] [mailto:
> [email protected]]
> > On Behalf Of Susan Bradley
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2014 8:04 PM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] SOT: Letter from MS, legitimacy ?
> >
> >
> http://blogs.technet.com/b/volume-licensing/archive/2014/03/10/licensing-how
> > -to-when-do-i-need-a-client-access-license-cal.aspx
> >
> > *7 - Do I need CALs for my administrators?*
> >
> > Server software licensed using CALs permits up to 2 users or devices to
> > access the server software for the purposes of administration without
> CALs.
> > However, if your administrators also use the software for anything other
> > than administration (for example, they check their email), CALs will be
> > required for them as well.
> >
> >
> >
> >> On 4/1/2014 5:53 PM, J- P wrote:
> >> As a consultant to this client (not using their exchange) do i require
> >> a windows CAL for Administration tasks?
> >>
> >> thanks
> >>
> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> --
> >> From: [email protected]
> >> To: [email protected]
> >> Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] SOT: Letter from MS, legitimacy ?
> >> Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2014 00:49:25 +0000
> >>
> >> Unless they have a reason to believe you are lying, yes, it is that
> easy.
> >>
> >> It's called "true up".
> >>
> >> *From:*[email protected]
> >> [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *J- P
> >> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 1, 2014 8:40 PM
> >> *To:* [email protected]
> >> *Subject:* RE: [NTSysADM] SOT: Letter from MS, legitimacy ?
> >>
> >> Wow, just got off the phone with them and I told the rep, "company
> >> has 62 users, we have 60 cals for 2012 and ex 2013 & 35 outlook
> >> licenses (All purchased through VL) and the desktops are  are all OEM
> >> w7"
> >>
> >> And I added "there is a legacy app on pc with office 97, that we have
> >> no clue where the disc/sleeve is"
> >>
> >>
> >> He replied ,"just purchase the additional CAL's , have an officer sign
> >> the form, send it as PDF  and we're done"
> >>
> >>
> >> Really? that easy? is it because the company is so small, or did they
> >> just revamp or did I just step in #$%^ ?
> >>
> >> I replied "you'll have it by the end of the week"
> >>
> >> Jean-Paul Natola
> >>
> >>
> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> --
> >>
> >> From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> >> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> >> Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2014 16:41:20 -0500
> >> Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] SOT: Letter from MS, legitimacy ?
> >>
> >> I went through a Microsoft SAM audit in 2012.  Started in April and
> >> ended in September.  I've been with the same company for 15 years and
> >> good documentation saved us on a few things.  In the end we had to
> >> purchase a few licenses.  If you have any questions along the way, I'd
> >> be happy to try and answer them.
> >>
> >> *From:*[email protected]
> >> <mailto:[email protected]>
> >> [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *J- P
> >> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 01, 2014 2:40 PM
> >> *To:* [email protected]
> >> <mailto:[email protected]>
> >> *Subject:* RE: [NTSysADM] SOT: Letter from MS, legitimacy ?
> >>
> >> Thanks for the clarification, and I appreciate the feedback , for once
> >> i actually interpreted something correclty from MS licensing.
> >>
> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> --
> >>
> >> From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> >> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> >> Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] SOT: Letter from MS, legitimacy ?
> >> Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2014 19:28:21 +0000
> >>
> >> That's not the way on-premises Exchange licensing works. It's per-user
> >> or per-device. Just like Server CALs. It doesn't matter how many
> >> mailboxes there are. Or how many AD accounts there are.
> >>
> >> *From:*[email protected]
> >> <mailto:[email protected]>
> >> [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Heaton,
> >> Joseph@Wildlife
> >> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 1, 2014 2:45 PM
> >> *To:* '[email protected]'
> >> *Subject:* RE: [NTSysADM] SOT: Letter from MS, legitimacy ?
> >>
> >> Or, if there's only one person that any of those applies to, you could
> >> set them up as DLs. not ideal, but it would work and not count against
> >> licensing.
> >>
> >> *From:*[email protected]
> >> <mailto:[email protected]>
> >> [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Art DeKneef
> >> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 01, 2014 11:15 AM
> >> *To:* [email protected]
> >> <mailto:[email protected]>
> >> *Subject:* RE: [NTSysADM] SOT: Letter from MS, legitimacy ?
> >>
> >> What does the version of Exchange Product Use Rights they are using
> >> say? These would be considered shared mailboxes?
> >>
> >> *From:*[email protected]
> >> <mailto:[email protected]>
> >> [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *J- P
> >> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 1, 2014 10:51 AM
> >> *To:* [email protected]
> >> <mailto:[email protected]>
> >> *Subject:* RE: [NTSysADM] SOT: Letter from MS, legitimacy ?
> >>
> >> So I started my audit on the client site with Exchange, and I noticed
> >> that they created all mail accounts as user mailboxes; For instance,
> >> warehouse@, jobs@ , dropbox@, voicemail@ etc...
> >>
> >> My question is will this be scrutinized and will MS say "it's a user
> >> box, therefore it requires a CAL"?
> >>
> >>
> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> --
> >>
> >> From: [email protected]
> >> <mailto:[email protected]>
> >> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> >> Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] SOT: Letter from MS, legitimacy ?
> >> Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2014 16:58:15 +0000
> >>
> >> Doesn't matter.
> >> Buried in the legalese of license agreements, MS states that they can
> >> request this info at any time. And all associated costs are the
> >> customer's responsibility.
> >>
> >> As long as you are not intentionally violating their licensing, they
> >> are not out to punish/fine you - just get you legit.
> >>
> >> In any case, good luck.
> >>
> >> Source: went through this exact thing in '12.
> >>
> >> *From:*[email protected]
> >> <mailto:[email protected]>
> >> [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *J- P
> >> *Sent:* Monday, March 31, 2014 12:38 PM
> >> *To:* [email protected]
> >> <mailto:[email protected]>
> >> *Subject:* RE: [NTSysADM] SOT: Letter from MS, legitimacy ?
> >>
> >> One thing I'm sure the client will note is;
> >>
> >> "MS_Rep_Name" will contact Business_Name to discuss the internal self
> >> audit, SHOULD YOUR ORG ELECT TO ENGAGE OUTSIDE RESOURCES O ASSIST YOU
> >> IN THE INTERNAL AUDIT MICROSOFT NOT FUND THOSE RESOURCES"
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Jean-Paul Natola
> >>
> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> --
> >>
> >> From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> >> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> >> Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] SOT: Letter from MS, legitimacy ?
> >> Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2014 16:28:03 +0000
> >>
> >> Vs. doing it free? Absolutely.
> >>
> >> *From:*[email protected]
> >> <mailto:[email protected]>
> >> [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *J- P
> >> *Sent:* Monday, March 31, 2014 12:05 PM
> >> *To:* [email protected]
> >> <mailto:[email protected]>
> >> *Subject:* RE: [NTSysADM] SOT: Letter from MS, legitimacy ?
> >>
> >> Being a consultant to them, would you make this a billable task?
> >>
> >>
> >> Jean-Paul Natola
> >>
> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> --
> >>
> >> Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2014 11:56:23 -0400
> >> From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> >> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> >> Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] SOT: Letter from MS, legitimacy ?
> >>
> >> Be prepared for a hair pulling experience. When we did the "It's not
> >> an audit, we're here to
> >>
> >> help you manage your licenses" they ended up doing lots of aggravating
> >> things. Stuff like
> >>
> >> not wanting to accept the idea that OEM XP licenses on a bunch of old
> >> HP machines were
> >>
> >> valid since neither our accounting or the reseller's records went back
> >> far enough to be
> >>
> >> able to produce an invoice. I think they finally dropped that when we
> >> came up with an
> >>
> >> email acknowledgement from the purchase and took pictures of a number
> >> of the COA
> >>
> >> stickers on some of the boxes. Then there was them saying we needed to
> >> purchase
> >>
> >> something like 20 cores of SQL Server 2012. We were running 2008r2,
> >> properly licensed
> >>
> >> and even with the 2012 transition, we were still properly licensed. I
> >> ended up quoting them
> >>
> >> the relevant sections from the SQL 2012 licensing document about a
> >> dozen times before
> >>
> >> they got it. There was several other dumb things.
> >>
> >> I've heard that this is being driven from the sales side of Microsoft
> >> as a revenue enhancement
> >>
> >> tool. I didn't see anything that would make me think that's not the
> case.
> >>
> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> --
> >>
> >>    Hi all
> >>
> >>    One of my new clients called me and said they received a letter
> >>    via Fedex from MS, regarding licensing. In my 15+ years I have
> >>    never had that occur before , I asked them to email me the letter
> >>    so I can take a look at it.
> >>
> >>    They only recently (within the last year) gone to Volume Licensing
> >>    for Windows/Exchange/outlook and TS cals/licensing, all desktops
> >>    are desktops are OEM licensed.
> >>
> >>    They are also  a small company (maybe 40 desktops ) and a handful
> >>    of servers.
> >>
> >>    Has anyone on here ever been contacted in this manner?
> >>
> >>
> >>    Jean-Paul Natola
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Joe Matuscak | Director of Technology
> >> *Rohrer Corporation* | Office: 330-335-1541
> >> 717 Seville Road | Wadsworth, Ohio 44281 www.rohrer.com
> >> <http://www.rohrer.com> | /A Better Package/
> >>
> >>
> >> .
> >
> > --
> > Got your CryptoLocker prevention in place?
> > http://www.thirdtier.net/2013/10/cryptolocker-prevention-kit-updates/
> > Only one more patching days of XP.... are you ready?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>

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