For the Hyper-V side, it matters if you are using VHD or newer VHDX format. VHDX kick butt all over VHD..
http://blogs.technet.com/b/askpfeplat/archive/2013/09/09/why-you-want-to-be-using-vhdx-in-hyper-v-whenever-possible-and-why-it-s-important-to-know-your-baselines.aspx http://pcortis.wordpress.com/2013/04/23/dynamic-vs-fixed-vhdx-actual-performance-figures/ Dave > Not that we have noticed, we do not thin provision the SQL or Oracle > drives. > > > On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 11:12 AM, Rene de Haas <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Aren't thin provisioned disks supposed to be slower. >> So far I have avoided using it. Depends on the purpose of the server I >> guess. >> >> >> On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 5:47 PM, Todd Lemmiksoo <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> My suggestion is to Storage vMotion the vm's and change the disk to >>> thin-provisioned. >>> And not worry about the size that windows sees. >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 10:42 AM, Randal, Phil < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Thereâs also ways of converting thick-provisioned disks to >>>> thin-provisioned. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> http://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?language=en_US&cmd=displayKC&externalId=2014832 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Phil >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> *Phil Randal* >>>> >>>> *Infrastructure Engineer* >>>> *Hoople Ltd | Thorn Office Centre | Hereford HR2 6JT* >>>> >>>> Tel: 01432 260415 | Email: [email protected] >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* [email protected] [mailto: >>>> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *John Cook >>>> *Sent:* 16 June 2014 16:36 >>>> >>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>> *Subject:* RE: [NTSysADM] Shrinking Windows volume >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> You can usually shrink the volume in Windows and then shrink the disk >>>> accordingly in the VCenter by editing the VM. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *John W. 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(To prevent data loss during V2V.) >>>> >>>> Then >>>> >>>> V2V outside of windows (Down time) >>>> >>>> Going to try and write this up as I go. >>>> >>>> Maybe I can share with the group for review and blog posting. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* [email protected] [ >>>> mailto:[email protected] >>>> <[email protected]>] *On >>>> Behalf Of *Andrew S. Baker >>>> >>>> *Sent:* Monday, June 16, 2014 11:06 AM >>>> *To:* ntsysadm >>>> *Subject:* Re: [NTSysADM] Shrinking Windows volume >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi David, >>>> >>>> >>>> What does that mean on a per server basis? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> How much storage has been allocated to each server? (individually or >>>> by >>>> server class?) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *ASB **http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* <http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker> >>>> *Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations & Information Security) >>>> for the SMB marketâ¦* >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 10:54 AM, David McSpadden <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Datastores. >>>> >>>> Windows actually in use 9.56 TB >>>> >>>> VM provisioned 30 TB >>>> >>>> VM Used 13.5 TB >>>> >>>> Actual VM space 18 TB >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I would like to reduce the provisioned space back down closer to 10TB >>>> if >>>> possible. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* [email protected] [mailto: >>>> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *geoff >>>> *Sent:* Monday, June 16, 2014 10:46 AM >>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>> *Subject:* Re: [NTSysADM] Shrinking Windows volume >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> What have you over allocated? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> CPUs and memory are easy to change on the fly >>>> >>>> Storage depending on your environment can be trickier but not >>>> insurmountable. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> gt >>>> >>>> I'm just Playbookin' around >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> *From:* "David McSpadden" <[email protected]> >>>> *To:* "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >>>> *Sent:* 16 June, 2014 10:19 AM >>>> *Subject:* [NTSysADM] Shrinking Windows volume >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I am 9months into my VMware virtualization and it appears we have over >>>> allocated a lot of windows server migrations. >>>> >>>> What is the best/safest/free? 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