or what I believe to be the list’s the most-often-recycled bits back then that 
I believe were were the genesis of said link:

‘more info please’

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Andrew S. Baker
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014 8:45 AM
To: ntsysadm
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] RE: As data loss disasters go...

You mean? 
http://KB.UltraTech-llc.com/?File=~MoreInfo.TXT<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v1/url?u=http://kb.ultratech-llc.com/?File%3D~MoreInfo.TXT&k=4%2BViHuL0UtSJBpVrYi3EdQ%3D%3D%0A&r=Jek3QSvahmIrNAN1nuPfQA%3D%3D%0A&m=EpJMbaUaXCNV5%2BO235cQ0qLzY0n0DUE9OOsiivZ0Cbk%3D%0A&s=d897e74a902e9a438df566456c2d14ec88d12e7ce8db82b4e521f24e4a9cae4f>






ASB
http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v1/url?u=http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker&k=4%2BViHuL0UtSJBpVrYi3EdQ%3D%3D%0A&r=Jek3QSvahmIrNAN1nuPfQA%3D%3D%0A&m=EpJMbaUaXCNV5%2BO235cQ0qLzY0n0DUE9OOsiivZ0Cbk%3D%0A&s=484083cd236c4d22bd2a6cc45713abed2f13f5e0fffc58218c6d460129e62aa3>
Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations & Information Security) for the 
SMB market…




On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 10:57 AM, Miller Bonnie L. 
<[email protected]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v1/url?u=http://mailto:millerbl%40mukilteo.wednet.edu&k=4%2BViHuL0UtSJBpVrYi3EdQ%3D%3D%0A&r=Jek3QSvahmIrNAN1nuPfQA%3D%3D%0A&m=EpJMbaUaXCNV5%2BO235cQ0qLzY0n0DUE9OOsiivZ0Cbk%3D%0A&s=d1e19c05c5bc40eb3c5397705175f500f1fb7eb6ec5644c919557d52bee8170f>>
 wrote:
I seem to remember ASB had a great link to his Ultratech site on how to provide 
more information--those were the days... 8)

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] 
On Behalf Of Michael B. Smith
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014 7:29 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] RE: As data loss disasters go...

I used to have a canned response about "how to ask a question". I wasn't the 
first one that used it, but it was about like using LMGTFY. :)

(Funny to me, not always so funny to the person it was directed at.)

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] 
On Behalf Of Jake Gardner
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014 9:58 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] RE: As data loss disasters go...

The usual answer back then was RTFM not the GTS of today.


Thanks,

Jake Gardner
IT Administrator
267-352-2020 Ext. 246<tel:267-352-2020%20Ext.%20246>
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-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] 
On Behalf Of [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014 9:51 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] RE: As data loss disasters go...
I think about 2003 for me too.....when I was a young(ish) sysadmin looking for 
people to give me the answers I couldn't find via Google.


Despatched via Blackberry. Mock if you will, but it gets my email without a 
fuss.

-----Original Message-----
From: "Dave Lum" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Sender: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2014 06:21:18
To: <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Reply-to: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] RE: As data loss disasters go...

A quick search puts me here since at least 2003. Dang. It was this list where I 
learned about restricted groups and GPO's (among a million other things), I 
didn't realize I'd been aware of it for so long.

I've "worked" with you guys longer than anyone!

> When did the old list start anyway?  I subbed there in ’99 when I
> started here (on recommendation by a co-worker), but don’t think my
> first n00b post came along until aught-aught.
>
> -Bonnie
>
> From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
> [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>]
>  On Behalf Of Rene de Haas
> Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014 3:29 AM
> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] RE: As data loss disasters go...
>
> I was here allmost from the beginning of the list. Though more
> lurking. Do remember helping Sean Martin once. Then I was still
> working for Woodward as I think Bob was once.
>
> On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 6:22 AM, Michael B. Smith
> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>>
>  wrote:
> You were here when I got here – late in the last century. You are
> more exempt than I.
>
> Not many others have been here as long as we have…    ☺
>
> We post with old bits. ☺
>
> From:
> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
> [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
> um.com<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v1/url?u=http://um.com&k=4%2BViHuL0UtSJBpVrYi3EdQ%3D%3D%0A&r=Jek3QSvahmIrNAN1nuPfQA%3D%3D%0A&m=EpJMbaUaXCNV5%2BO235cQ0qLzY0n0DUE9OOsiivZ0Cbk%3D%0A&s=57acefd31392cdfaf2d8fa7d2193f6c6626a714bcdd07d98f4f60b101291503a>>]
> On Behalf Of Free, Bob
> Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2014 7:41 PM
>
> To: 
> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
> Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: As data loss disasters go...
>
> MBS was exempted from the sarcasm tag requirement sometime in the
> previous century….as were a few others…
>
> From:
> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
> [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>]
>  On Behalf Of Jake Gardner
> Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2014 6:23 AM
> To: 
> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
> Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: As data loss disasters go...
>
> I was in the middle of my first cup of coffee…   I can’t read sarcasm
> till at least 10am.
>
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jake Gardner
> IT Administrator
> 267-352-2020 Ext. 
> 246<tel:267-352-2020%20Ext.%20246><tel:267-352-2020%20Ext.%20246>
> www.ttcdas.com<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v1/url?u=http://www.ttcdas.com&k=4%2BViHuL0UtSJBpVrYi3EdQ%3D%3D%0A&r=Jek3QSvahmIrNAN1nuPfQA%3D%3D%0A&m=EpJMbaUaXCNV5%2BO235cQ0qLzY0n0DUE9OOsiivZ0Cbk%3D%0A&s=e7e7cc88da6bb5bbbaca5a228d3ff76e229f94d3db3391acc0caa7c003cb8dbe><https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v1/url?u=http://www.t
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> From:
> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
> [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>]
>  On Behalf Of Michael B. Smith
> Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2014 9:06 AM
> To: 
> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
> Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: As data loss disasters go...
>
> Sorry, you don’t know me very well. ☺
>
> I was being sarcastic.
>
> From:
> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
> [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>]
>  On Behalf Of Jake Gardner
> Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2014 8:28 AM
> To: 
> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
> Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: As data loss disasters go...
>
> Interesting that the article mentions nothing BUT the cloud and they
> lost almost everything.
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jake Gardner
> IT Administrator
> 267-352-2020 Ext. 
> 246<tel:267-352-2020%20Ext.%20246><tel:267-352-2020%20Ext.%20246>
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>
> From:
> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
> [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>]
>  On Behalf Of Michael B. Smith
> Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2014 8:10 AM
> To: 
> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
> Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: As data loss disasters go...
>
> The cloud is far more secure.
>
> From:
> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
> [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>]
>  On Behalf Of Jake Gardner
> Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2014 8:03 AM
> To: 
> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
> Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: As data loss disasters go...
>
> Ouch!
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jake Gardner
> IT Administrator
> 267-352-2020 Ext. 
> 246<tel:267-352-2020%20Ext.%20246><tel:267-352-2020%20Ext.%20246>
> www.ttcdas.com<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v1/url?u=http://www.ttcdas.com&k=4%2BViHuL0UtSJBpVrYi3EdQ%3D%3D%0A&r=Jek3QSvahmIrNAN1nuPfQA%3D%3D%0A&m=EpJMbaUaXCNV5%2BO235cQ0qLzY0n0DUE9OOsiivZ0Cbk%3D%0A&s=e7e7cc88da6bb5bbbaca5a228d3ff76e229f94d3db3391acc0caa7c003cb8dbe><https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v1/url?u=http://www.t
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>
> From:
> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
> [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>]
>  On Behalf Of Gavin Wilby
> Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2014 7:08 AM
> To: 
> '[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>'
> Subject: [NTSysADM] As data loss disasters go...
>
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>
> This kinda is at the top of the tree.
>
> Gavin Wilby
> IT Support Engineer
>
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