There are only 3 editions of Windows 8.1 or 8. Well, 4 if you include Windows 
RT.

They are:
Windows 8.1 (Home, personal, consumer, whatever)
Windows 8.1 Pro
Windows 8.1 Enterprise

I have heard that the media is the same for 8.1 and 8.1 Pro and the key 
determines which features are turned on or off. Media for 8.1 Enterprise is 
supposed to be different in that it includes all the features, has all the bits.

Besides this difference there is OEM, Full Packaged Product and Volume 
licensing. Windows 8.1 and Pro can be OEM or FPP. Windows 8.1 Pro can also be 
volume license. Where Enterprise is only volume license. The keys are supposed 
to be different. 

I would have to go read the exact requirements but what I remember is with OEM 
there are sort of 2 levels of OEM. The Direct OEMs, large system builders 
(Dell, HP, etc.) and the rest of us small guys (System Builders). The large 
system builders can join a Microsoft program that gives them an OEM license 
that they somehow link to the hardware. I never looked at this as I will never 
be in that program. For the PCs I build I buy OEM licenses that include a 
sticker I put on the PC.

Art DeKneef
Avanti Computers
Mesa, AZ
480-649-4430 Office
480-529-4430 Mobile

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Ben Scott
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2014 4:46 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] Re: Win 8 OEM clean install - media, editions, 
activation

  In the following, all terms in quotes are my own terminology, which may not 
necessarily align with Dell's, Microsoft's, or anyone else's.

On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 6:16 PM, Jon Harris <[email protected]> wrote:
> 1. Dell from my experience has been getting better about the shovel 
> ware on their reinstall disks.  They are usually on separate set of 
> disks as is a lot of their custom drivers.

  In my experience: Dell has long done a good job keeping "OS install"
vs "drivers" vs "apps" discs separated, at least for the business lines 
(Optiplex, Latitude, Precision), with the "OS install" generally being fairly 
close to the vanilla OS configuration one would get from Microsoft.  Dell 
generally just adds a little support info, and any drivers needed to do the OS 
install.

  Sometimes (and with increasing frequency (very common now)), there's an extra 
charge to get such media (typically a few bucks) when you order the PC.  I'm OK 
with this; we don't need 73 copies of the same OS disc at work.

  Now, sometimes Dell doesn't include an "OS install" disc.  Either the PC 
didn't ship with any media, or the media is a just a "system restore" set.  
When the PC doesn't ship with any media, you have the option of creating a 
"system restore" set yourself (from the "system restore" image on the hard 
drive).  The "system restore" returns the system to factory configuration, 
complete with any shovelware Dell might have originally loaded.  (This seems to 
be more common for the home product lines (Dimension, Inspiron)).

  In the case where all you have is "system restore", I've found Dell to be 
willing to sell you a plain "OS install" disc for a small fee (~$20, IIRC), 
even for the home products.

  (As an aside: I once diff'ed a Dell Win XP "OS install" disc vs a Gateway Win 
XP "OS install" disc, and the only difference was four smallish OEMBIOS.* 
files, and the fact that Dell added the Intel "iaStor" SATA AHCI driver.  The 
remaining 600+ MiB was identical, down to the last byte.  So clearly sometimes 
the OEM media is barely touched by the OEM.)

> One of the reasons I prefer to get my garage clients to purchase Dell 
> over other brands.  Most of the others from what I have seen like to 
> really dump everything on one disk which is just full of garbage.

  Indeed.  HP seems to be the worst for this, at least on their home PCs.  And 
they would *not* sell me a plain OS install disc.  I could get the "system 
restore" (with all shovelware) or nothing.

> 2. From what a Microsoft store person told me according to them, well 
> depending on who you talk to, media is media for Windows 8.

  I realize this is just what you were told, but I've just today found that to 
be wrong, assuming one really means *all* media.  This laptop is licensed for 
Win 8 Home.  I have some Win 8 Pro Volume License Media, and that installed 
Pro.  However, the Win 8 OEM Dell media, which was marked "Pro", installed Win 
8 Home on this laptop.  So what you were told appears true for *some* media.  
FYI/FWIW.

-- Ben




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