A simple solution would be not to give your keys out to untrusted parties

Fwiw, the Technet article was written by Steve Riley: "It's Me, and Here's My 
Proof: Why Identity and Authentication Must Remain Distinct" - it's a good 
article, worth reading.


From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Micheal Espinola Jr
Sent: Thursday, 31 July 2014 4:42 PM
To: ntsysadm
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] This was inevitable, but it's still a good reminder

I'm sorry, what exactly was your proposal?  Was it the technet article?  I 
didnt read it.

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Espi


On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 9:13 PM, Ken Schaefer 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
So, what's wrong with my proposal? You didn't address that anywhere, unless 
I've missed it somehow.

(leaving aside the issue of traditional lock picking, which has been an issue, 
or non-issue, for years)

From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] 
On Behalf Of Micheal Espinola Jr
Sent: Thursday, 31 July 2014 1:34 PM

To: ntsysadm
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] This was inevitable, but it's still a good reminder

I'm referring specifically to the standard types of keys that are used by 
consumers for thier private property.  Current common door locks/keys are 
decreasingly viable as a security solution, and have been for years.  If a 
common key can now be duplicated via automation simply by a series of pictures, 
then its really time to put this antiquated system to rest.  Keys need to 
become more complex.  Its not that I have issue with the concept of physical 
keys - its a problem with the low-tech variations of common locks that are 
still so prevalent around the world.
"Authentication" issues aside, the typical mechanical systems are still not 
complex enough to prevent basic lock-picking methods.  And now, we are subject 
to duplication by photograph?  I think this is a horrendous turn of events. 
Cool tech, but how utterly exploitable on a massive scale.  People are already 
subject to video-based types of identity theft.  Now, I would speculate, that 
we can welcome breaking and entering.

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Espi


On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 7:14 PM, Ken Schaefer 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Why do they "have to go"? Keys are a physical authenticator (something you 
have). You give it to someone else, and you run the risk of it being cloned or 
otherwise compromised. A simple solution would be not to give your keys out to 
untrusted parties...

I think the fundamental issues with using current keys is that there's no 
separation between identity and authenticator. Just like using your CC number 
online: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc512578.aspx is an old 
article, but still applies. Not to mention the lack of simple revocation 
mechanisms, audit capabilities etc. :)

Cheers
Ken

From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] 
On Behalf Of Micheal Espinola Jr
Sent: Thursday, 31 July 2014 11:11 AM
To: ntsysadm
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] This was inevitable, but it's still a good reminder

It was inevitable.  Locks and keys as they have existed for decades simply have 
to go.

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Espi


On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 7:17 AM, Kurt Buff 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Physical security is just as important as computing security
http://www.wired.com/2014/07/keyme-let-me-break-in/




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