Thanks again for following-up!

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Espi


On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 11:11 AM, Richard Stovall <[email protected]> wrote:

> Following up on the follow up.
>
> This has finally been fixed as of SEP 14 MP1  (MP2 is current.)
>
> From https://support.symantec.com/en_US/article.INFO4193.html
>
> ---
> Chrome Adobe Flash component fails to update with SMC started*FIX ID:*
>  4050141
>
> *Symptom:* Chrome fails to update the Adobe Flash component with the
> Symantec Management Client (SMC) enabled.
>
> *Solution:* Corrected an issue where Symantec Endpoint Protection blocked
> the Chrome Flash component update.
>
> On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 8:47 PM, Micheal Espinola Jr <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> WOW, just...  wow.  Thanks for the follow-up on this!
>>
>> --
>> Espi
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 8:02 AM, Richard Stovall <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> For anyone else that may be seeing the Flash update issues in Chrome.
>>> If you're using SEP, this may be your issue.
>>>
>>> https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=651945
>>>
>>> ---------
>>>
>>> Symantec has confirmed that this is a known issue. Below is their response 
>>> to our case.
>>>
>>> After reviewing this case and the available data (primarily the provided 
>>> WPP logs) I have found that this is a known-issue with the SEP 12.1 and SEP 
>>> 14 products. SEP is attempting to obtain a hash of the Adobe Flash Player 
>>> file 'pepflashplayer.dll'; however, during the hash operation, Chrome is 
>>> attempting to move the file from a temporary folder (where SEP is 
>>> performing the hash) to Chrome's plugin folder; since SEP has a lock on the 
>>> file, Chrome's move operation fails and the plugin update process aborts.
>>>
>>> Symantec has identified a fix for this issue and is planning on including a 
>>> resolution in the next release of SEP 12.1 and SEP 14, both due out early 
>>> next year.
>>>
>>> It is possible to work around this issue by disabling deferred scanning for 
>>> AutoProtect; however, this is not generally recommended in production 
>>> unless absolutely needed, as it disables scan throttling based on I/O 
>>> activity.
>>>
>>> For more information on disabling deferred scanning, please see the 
>>> following KB document:
>>>
>>> How to disable deferred scanning in Auto-Protect for Symantec Endpoint 
>>> Protection 
>>> <https://support.symantec.com/en_US/article.TECH224108.html>https://support.symantec.com/en_US/article.TECH224108.html
>>>
>>> It is also possible to work around the issue by temporarily disabling SEP; 
>>> however, this is a potential security issue, as you will be temporarily 
>>> disabling the product from being able to scan files.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 7:10 PM, Micheal Espinola Jr <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Right, for which if I understand the process correctly, you are
>>>> dependant on Google Updater to update various components after the fact -
>>>> that are not a part of the core application update.  So, you may have
>>>> download restrictions in place that are preventing the update of the flash
>>>> component.  This methodology appears to be acknowledged in the top 
>>>> response:
>>>>
>>>> Chrome is rolling out some optimizations to the Chrome install process,
>>>>> whereby the Flash Player component will automatically be installed a few
>>>>> minutes after the initial Chrome installation.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Espi
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 3:41 PM, Richard Stovall <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Well, this pretty much explains what I'm seeing.
>>>>> https://forums.adobe.com/thread/2221587.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 6:23 PM, Micheal Espinola Jr <
>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I cant speak for Ninite-driven upgrades, but have you tested Google
>>>>>> Updater driven upgrades?  Perhaps the issue is with Ninite, and not 
>>>>>> Google
>>>>>> Chrome itself.  Or perhaps you need to review your methodologies inline
>>>>>> with your download restrictions.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Espi
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 2:36 PM, Richard Stovall <[email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Getting back to this.  Sorry for the delay...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Google is apparently de-emphasizing Flash's use with an eventual
>>>>>>> plan to drop it completely.  (Which I'm all for.)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The problem is that it's still alive and well, but updating to
>>>>>>> Chrome 54.X no longer automatically updates Pepper Flash along with core
>>>>>>> Chrome.  At least on Windows, it looks like they're moving Flash to the 
>>>>>>> *local
>>>>>>> user profile* and relying on the Chrome Component Updater to
>>>>>>> download it as necessary.  (Check your appdata\local\google\chrome\user
>>>>>>> data\pepperflash folder.)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We manage Chrome updates at work and this is breaking our current
>>>>>>> system.  Very frustrating.  May be moving back to Firefox so at least we
>>>>>>> can keep this stuff up to date.  Moving Flash to the local profile seems
>>>>>>> like a genuinely bad idea.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is no one else seeing issues with this at work?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 10:25 PM, Micheal Espinola Jr <
>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hasn't Chrome started the phase-out of Flash?  However, I'm on 54
>>>>>>>> and I can see Adobe's Flash test page fine.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm not aware of any Flash update options relating to current
>>>>>>>> versions of Chrome.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Espi
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 5:07 PM, Richard Stovall <[email protected]
>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Does anyone know what is really going on with Flash and Chrome
>>>>>>>>> 54?  It doesn't appear to be bundled with Chrome anymore.  I use 
>>>>>>>>> Ninite to
>>>>>>>>> update Chrome at $work, but now that doesn't work.  (Chrome updates, 
>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>> Flash does not.)  We restrict downloads of .exes and .dlls, so if 
>>>>>>>>> Chrome is
>>>>>>>>> trying to autoupdate Flash via direct download, that won't work.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I haven't had time to do a deep dive into this.  Was hoping
>>>>>>>>> someone else had seen the behavior and knew for sure what has changed 
>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>> Chrome 54 and what the Flash update options are.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>> RS
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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