What it looks like is that they are just doing some reactionary 
legislation.

Legislation without planning and considering all options shouldn't
be the way we are governed.





> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tom Cass [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 11:18 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Senate votes to permit warrantless Net-wiretaps, Carn
> 
> 
> It seems to me that  the senate is just reviving old 
> legislation and passing
> it.   There seems to be a complete disconnect from what AG  
> John Ashcroft is
> asking for...
> 
> 
> Tom Cass
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matt Wehnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 11:07 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Senate votes to permit warrantless Net-wiretaps, Carn
> 
> I agree. There are problems with the current laws regarding 
> wire-taping and
> electronic surveillance (ES). But those problems should be 
> fixed instead of
> just removing all regulations in place that protect people. 
> 
> I heard today on the news that if the FBI (or whoever) is 
> using ES against a
> foreigner and that guy connects to a US based pc. They have 
> to immediately
> end the surveillance until the suspect disconnects from the 
> US based PC. If
> that's their big problem change that law, don't just make it 
> so they can spy
> on whoever they want at any given moment.
> 
> Matt Wehnes
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 8:15 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Senate votes to permit warrantless Net-wiretaps, Carn
> 
> 
> I am a strong supporter of law enforcement but I believe this 
> amendment goes
> too
> far.  It can be abused by local Private Investigators...do 
> you really want a
> PI
> getting a wire tap on your phone/computer?  The wording needs to be
> clarified
> and certain provisions spelled out before this becomes an 
> acceptable piece
> of
> legislature.  That's all the opposing Senators want, time to 
> clairfy just
> what
> will be included in Title III.
> 
> There is no way this amendment could have guaranteed 
> preventing the WTC
> disaster.  There is no way it can guarantee preventing a 
> similar disaster
> 
> tnx Stu
> ralph
> 
> ____________________Reply Separator____________________
> Subject:    RE: Senate votes to permit warrantless 
> Net-wiretaps, Carnivo
> Author: NT System Admin Issues <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date:       09/18/2001 5:50 AM
> 
> Here here!
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jerry Kennedy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 5:53 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Senate votes to permit warrantless Net-wiretaps, 
> Carnivore
> use
> 
> Write my Congressman about what?  About implementing laws designed to
> protect us at the cost of a minor infringement on my civil 
> rights?  What
> are they doing that your employer or network admins, who could use
> benign e-mails in a much more malicious manner, don't already 
> do.  While
> I don't like it that we have go to these lengths, I feel it's 
> necessary
> for our National Security.  Besides, I've nothing to hide and if I had
> something to hide I would not be likely to send it via e-mail. Maybe,
> just maybe, if we had this in place a while back, some 6,000+ people,
> some of which may have even been on this list, would still be with us.
> It's a dangerous world out there, which requires unpleasant measures.
> GOD BLESS AMERICA.
> 
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