Oops - forgot to mention - SCE is limited to 30 servers (IIRC). The 500 client 
limit I mentioned earlier was for desktops.

There is no custom report authoring capability in SCE, and it's a single server 
solution (i.e. like SBS) - so you don't get failover to another management 
server or anything like that (you are free to use any existing SQL Server 
though, so I suppose you can always point it to an existing highly available 
SQL Server for data storage).

Ops Manager doesn't really "auto detect" services. Instead you add "Management 
Packs". Each Management Pack describes a "health model" for a particular 
product, technology etc (e.g Exchange, or DNS Services, or Active Directory, or 
IIS or whatever). This includes a list of all the various things that each 
service uses (e.g. services) and what a health or unhealthy product looks like 
(this is defined via states for services, events that might be logged, logfiles 
etc). Some of the more advanced management packs also include synthetic 
transaction abilities (e.g. the ability to login to Exchange as if you were a 
client PC, or request web pages from remote machines, or run SQL Server 
queries). Ops Manager then roles up this health state into a view of your 
network.

If you're familiar with MOF (Microsoft Operations Framework), then you're 
probably familiar with the concept of a "health model" for your services. You 
basically define what a healthy network should look like, and then start 
monitoring for when the symptoms appear that show there's a problem. The MPs 
are basically "prebuilt" health models for Microsoft and 3rd party 
products/technologies. Microsoft has a MP catalogue on their website.

The benefit of SCE is that it includes some GPOs to configure the firewall for 
your all your clients, as well as pre-loaded management packs for a bunch of 
services and so on. Additionally Application Error Reporting can automatically 
be configured for your clients via supplied GPOs and a wizard.

Cheers
Ken

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Ens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, 3 January 2008 2:38 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Monitoring services

That helps a lot Ken
Good concise technical writing.
steve

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>
> Cheers
> Ken
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steve Ens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, 3 January 2008 3:07 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Monitoring services
>
> Speaking of OpsMgr, I hear there are a number of flavours, such as the
> essentials, etc.  Anyone testing this out yet?
>
> On Jan 2, 2008 10:01 AM, Rod Trent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
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> >
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> > Yeah...MOM 2005 and now OpsMgr 2007 will do that.  You can set it up to
> > restart the services automatically, and also alert you through various
> > methods when the service is having trouble.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >  Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 10:57 AM
> >  To: NT System Admin Issues
> >  Subject: Monitoring services
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Is there an app (MOM?) that scans a servers running services and then
> > automatically monitors those services to ensure they're running? Surely
> > there are a few apps with this capability...
> >
> >
> >
> > Dave Lum  - Systems Engineer
> >  [EMAIL PROTECTED] - (971)-222-1025
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> > legal bindings...
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