fishes = peckers 

-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 11:09 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Monitoring services

The other BIG benefit of SCE is cost. For us littler fishes in the sea.
;-)
TVK
MCSA
MVP-MOM

-----Original Message-----
From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 10:44 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Monitoring services

Oops - forgot to mention - SCE is limited to 30 servers (IIRC). The 500
client limit I mentioned earlier was for desktops.

There is no custom report authoring capability in SCE, and it's a single
server solution (i.e. like SBS) - so you don't get failover to another
management server or anything like that (you are free to use any
existing SQL Server though, so I suppose you can always point it to an
existing highly available SQL Server for data storage).

Ops Manager doesn't really "auto detect" services. Instead you add
"Management Packs". Each Management Pack describes a "health model" for
a particular product, technology etc (e.g Exchange, or DNS Services, or
Active Directory, or IIS or whatever). This includes a list of all the
various things that each service uses (e.g. services) and what a health
or unhealthy product looks like (this is defined via states for
services, events that might be logged, logfiles etc). Some of the more
advanced management packs also include synthetic transaction abilities
(e.g. the ability to login to Exchange as if you were a client PC, or
request web pages from remote machines, or run SQL Server queries). Ops
Manager then roles up this health state into a view of your network.

If you're familiar with MOF (Microsoft Operations Framework), then
you're probably familiar with the concept of a "health model" for your
services. You basically define what a healthy network should look like,
and then start monitoring for when the symptoms appear that show there's
a problem. The MPs are basically "prebuilt" health models for Microsoft
and 3rd party products/technologies. Microsoft has a MP catalogue on
their website.

The benefit of SCE is that it includes some GPOs to configure the
firewall for your all your clients, as well as pre-loaded management
packs for a bunch of services and so on. Additionally Application Error
Reporting can automatically be configured for your clients via supplied
GPOs and a wizard.

Cheers
Ken

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Ens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, 3 January 2008 2:38 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Monitoring services

That helps a lot Ken
Good concise technical writing.
steve

uct.
>
> Cheers
> Ken
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steve Ens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, 3 January 2008 3:07 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Monitoring services
>
> Speaking of OpsMgr, I hear there are a number of flavours, such as the
> essentials, etc.  Anyone testing this out yet?
>
> On Jan 2, 2008 10:01 AM, Rod Trent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
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> > Yeah...MOM 2005 and now OpsMgr 2007 will do that.  You can set it up
to
> > restart the services automatically, and also alert you through
various
> > methods when the service is having trouble.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >  Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 10:57 AM
> >  To: NT System Admin Issues
> >  Subject: Monitoring services
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Is there an app (MOM?) that scans a servers running services and
then
> > automatically monitors those services to ensure they're running?
Surely
> > there are a few apps with this capability...
> >
> >
> >
> > Dave Lum  - Systems Engineer
> >  [EMAIL PROTECTED] - (971)-222-1025
> >  http://disclaimerpages.com  - if you can't get there, this e-mail
has no
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