It's never instantly.
You have to make them understand you didn't make the charges. It might be 3 to 
6 months for a regular joe to get their money back.  Recovering from a fraud is 
almost as dramatic as the fraud itself.

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Graeme Carstairs 
  To: NT System Admin Issues 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 3:28 PM
  Subject: Re: [ISN] Clarkson stung after bank prank



  What this proves is that the Direct Debit scheme in the UK is flawed.

  You used to have to sign a form to declare you wanted the Direct Debit set up.

  Now you just need bank account details.

  Though he will get his money back instantly as the direct debit scheme is 
fully guaranteed and any miss or fraudulent payment is covered. 

  Also his claims that there is nothing the bank can do under the data 
protection act is correct the police. can investigate who setup the payment as 
part of a criminal investigation.

  His details are out there as he said before he published them, and it was 
open to anyone to use. 

  Though he may come across as pompous and arrogant Clarkson is one of the best 
presenters on TV.

  I dont think he should need to say sorry because he made a mistake, as he was 
correct, no one has stolen his money, he will get it back instantly as it was a 
fraudulent DD charge. 






  On Jan 8, 2008 5:57 PM, Kurt Buff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

    He's a useful idiot, in this case.

    He's provided his audience with proof positive that losing control of
    your PII is a *bad* thing.

    Heh.

    On Jan 8, 2008 8:06 AM, Don Ely < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
    >
    >  I gathered that from reading the article...  again I say; Idiot
    >
    >
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    >
    > On Jan 8, 2008 8:00 AM, James Rankin < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
    >
    > >
    > > I saw that yesterday and laughed my ass off. For non-Brits unfamiliar 
with
    > Jeremy Clarkson, he is supremely arrogant and self-assured, which makes 
it 
    > all the more funny.
    > >
    > > I still love watching him on Top Gear though....
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > On 08/01/2008, Kurt Buff < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
    > > > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
    > > > From: InfoSec News < [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
    > > > Date: Jan 8, 2008 12:02 AM 
    > > > Subject: [ISN] Clarkson stung after bank prank
    > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/7174760.stm
    > > >
    > > > 7 January 2008
    > > >
    > > > TV presenter Jeremy Clarkson has lost money after publishing his bank
    > > > details in his newspaper column. 
    > > >
    > > > The Top Gear host revealed his account numbers after rubbishing the
    > > > furore over the loss of 25 million people's personal details on two
    > > > computer discs. 
    > > >
    > > > He wanted to prove the story was a fuss about nothing.
    > > >
    > > > But Clarkson admitted he was "wrong" after he discovered a reader had
    > > > used the details to create a 500 direct debit to the charity Diabetes 
    > > > UK.
    > > >
    > > > Clarkson published details of his Barclays account in the Sun 
newspaper,
    > > > including his account number and sort code. He even told people how to
    > > > find out his address.
    > > >
    > > > "All you'll be able to do with them is put money into my account. Not
    > > > take it out. Honestly, I've never known such a palaver about 
nothing," 
    > > > he told readers.
    > > >
    > > > But he was proved wrong, as the 47-year-old wrote in his Sunday Times
    > > > column.
    > > >
    > > > "I opened my bank statement this morning to find out that someone has 
    > > > set up a direct debit which automatically takes 500 from my account," 
he
    > > > said.
    > > >
    > > > "The bank cannot find out who did this because of the Data Protection 
    > > > Act and they cannot stop it from happening again.
    > > >
    > > > "I was wrong and I have been punished for my mistake."
    > > >
    > > > Police were called in to search for the two discs, which contained 
the 
    > > > entire database of child benefit claimants and apparently got lost in
    > > > the post in October 2007.
    > > >
    > > > They were posted from HM Revenue and Customs offices in Tyne and 
Wear, 
    > > > but never turned up at their destination - the National Audit Office.
    > > >
    > > > The loss, which led to an apology from Prime Minister Gordon Brown,
    > > > created fears of identity fraud. 
    > > >
    > > > Clarkson now says of the case: "Contrary to what I said at the time, 
we
    > > > must go after the idiots who lost the discs and stick cocktail sticks 
in
    > > > their eyes until they beg for mercy." 
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