My cheques here in the US have all of that info on them too. The difference here is I don't share that with the public thus making not available so easily... Of course, I don't even write cheques!!!
On Jan 8, 2008 1:36 PM, Simon Butler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > As someone has already pointed out, this isn't an issue with what he did, > but the UK banking system. > The original details was published in an article in the Sunday Times - > maybe available online. > However the information that he supplied is available quite easily. > Here in the UK, our cheques (yes that is how we spell it) has the Account > Name, Sort Code (routing number I think the US equivalent is) and the > Account number. He also gave information on how to find his address, > although that would be easily done from public information. > > With JUST that information no one should be able to take money from him. > The Direct Debit was setup frequently and therefore he will get the money > back immediately. The UK direct debit system is well regulated and the banks > are under an obligation to refund the money. > > What is causing the noise in the UK is how easy it was for someone to set > this up using public information. > Furthermore more his bank (Barclays, one of the largest banks in the UK > and the world) are hiding behind some UK legislation called the Data > Protection Act. > For those that don't know, Clarkson is the presenter of the most popular > motoring show in the UK, and rants against the environmentalist lobby. it > has been pointed out that instead of a diabetes charity, it would have been > more amusing if it was a donation to Greenpeace or Friends of the Earth > (both major environmental charities here in the UK). > > The comments on The Register's reporting of the story will help with the > real concerns of the story: > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/01/07/clarkson_bank_prank_backfires/ > > Hopefully that clears up some of the background to the story. > > Simon. > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > *Sent:* 08 January 2008 20:47 > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* Re: [ISN] Clarkson stung after bank prank > > > Someone share their bank account info and routing codes with me and see if > "I" get caught... :P > > Billionaires only need apply!!!! None of you IT folk here qualify... > > On Jan 8, 2008 12:43 PM, Micheal Espinola Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > He's a total idiot. If I was under 18 again, *I* would have cleaned him > > out. > > > > > > On Jan 8, 2008 3:32 PM, Don Ely <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > He's an a$$h4t. He got lucky... If someone really wanted to, they > > > could have cleaned him out... It's absolutely stupid to provide that kind > > > of information in a public forum and NOT expect to get exploited... > > > > > > He's an Idiot > > > > > > On Jan 8, 2008 12:28 PM, Graeme Carstairs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > What this proves is that the Direct Debit scheme in the UK is > > > > flawed. > > > > > > > > You used to have to sign a form to declare you wanted the Direct > > > > Debit set up. > > > > > > > > Now you just need bank account details. > > > > > > > > Though he will get his money back instantly as the direct debit > > > > scheme is fully guaranteed and any miss or fraudulent payment is > > > > covered. > > > > > > > > Also his claims that there is nothing the bank can do under the data > > > > protection act is correct the police. can investigate who setup the > > > > payment > > > > as part of a criminal investigation. > > > > > > > > His details are out there as he said before he published them, and > > > > it was open to anyone to use. > > > > > > > > Though he may come across as pompous and arrogant Clarkson is one of > > > > the best presenters on TV. > > > > > > > > I dont think he should need to say sorry because he made a mistake, > > > > as he was correct, no one has stolen his money, he will get it back > > > > instantly as it was a fraudulent DD charge. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jan 8, 2008 5:57 PM, Kurt Buff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > He's a useful idiot, in this case. > > > > > > > > > > He's provided his audience with proof positive that losing control > > > > > of > > > > > your PII is a *bad* thing. > > > > > > > > > > Heh. > > > > > > > > > > On Jan 8, 2008 8:06 AM, Don Ely < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I gathered that from reading the article... again I say; Idiot > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jan 8, 2008 8:00 AM, James Rankin < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I saw that yesterday and laughed my ass off. For non-Brits > > > > > unfamiliar with > > > > > > Jeremy Clarkson, he is supremely arrogant and self-assured, > > > > > which makes it > > > > > > all the more funny. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I still love watching him on Top Gear though.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 08/01/2008, Kurt Buff < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > > > > > > > From: InfoSec News < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > Date: Jan 8, 2008 12:02 AM > > > > > > > > Subject: [ISN] Clarkson stung after bank prank > > > > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/7174760.stm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7 January 2008 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > TV presenter Jeremy Clarkson has lost money after publishing > > > > > his bank > > > > > > > > details in his newspaper column. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Top Gear host revealed his account numbers after > > > > > rubbishing the > > > > > > > > furore over the loss of 25 million people's personal details > > > > > on two > > > > > > > > computer discs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He wanted to prove the story was a fuss about nothing. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But Clarkson admitted he was "wrong" after he discovered a > > > > > reader had > > > > > > > > used the details to create a 500 direct debit to the charity > > > > > Diabetes > > > > > > > > UK. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Clarkson published details of his Barclays account in the > > > > > Sun newspaper, > > > > > > > > including his account number and sort code. He even told > > > > > people how to > > > > > > > > find out his address. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "All you'll be able to do with them is put money into my > > > > > account. Not > > > > > > > > take it out. Honestly, I've never known such a palaver about > > > > > nothing," > > > > > > > > he told readers. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But he was proved wrong, as the 47-year-old wrote in his > > > > > Sunday Times > > > > > > > > column. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "I opened my bank statement this morning to find out that > > > > > someone has > > > > > > > > set up a direct debit which automatically takes 500 from my > > > > > account," he > > > > > > > > said. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "The bank cannot find out who did this because of the Data > > > > > Protection > > > > > > > > Act and they cannot stop it from happening again. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "I was wrong and I have been punished for my mistake." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Police were called in to search for the two discs, which > > > > > contained the > > > > > > > > entire database of child benefit claimants and apparently > > > > > got lost in > > > > > > > > the post in October 2007. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They were posted from HM Revenue and Customs offices in Tyne > > > > > and Wear, > > > > > > > > but never turned up at their destination - the National > > > > > Audit Office. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The loss, which led to an apology from Prime Minister Gordon > > > > > Brown, > > > > > > > > created fears of identity fraud. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Clarkson now says of the case: "Contrary to what I said at > > > > > the time, we > > > > > > > > must go after the idiots who lost the discs and stick > > > > > cocktail sticks in > > > > > > > > their eyes until they beg for mercy." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > > > Visit InfoSec News > > > > > > > > http://www.infosecnews.org/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja! > > > > > ~ > > > > > > > > ~ < http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm > > > > > > ~ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > James Rankin > > > > > > > Tel: +44 7902 193912 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja! ~ > > > > > ~ <http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm > ~ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > "Good News Everyone, you just received an e-mail from me." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > ME2 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm> ~
