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On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 4:46 PM, Gary Slinger <[email protected]> wrote: > ** I'm going to go and get some popcorn... > > How do you think that will play out when it's one PM, five concurrent dev > teams, a QA team and production implementation and operations folks? > > (And that's before I take 'PM' out of the 'just for IT' space). > ------------------------------ > *From: * Tigran K <[email protected]> > *Date: *Mon, 1 Aug 2011 16:44:24 -0700 > *To: *NT System Admin Issues<[email protected]> > *ReplyTo: * "NT System Admin Issues" < > [email protected]> > *Subject: *Re: PMI PMP Certification > > I agree my sample size is not sufficient that's why I'm asking what does a > project manager do? > > Here's an example. Project is running late and the CIO comes in the room > and says get this thing done. He's not talking to the project manager > because no matter what the project manager does if he's not skilled in the > particular software he can't get it done. So really the guy getting the job > done is the skilled worker. The one that has the technical knowledge. > > I'm suggesting the system is broken. In current business environment it > appears as the technical person is working for the project manager. I'm > saying it should be the other way around. The project manager should be > working for the technical guy. > > --Tigran > > On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Andrew S. Baker <[email protected]> wrote: > >> True, but my real point was that just because you may appear to be >> surrounded by lots of ineffective *<insert job specification here>*, it >> doesn't mean that your sample size was sufficient to judge the validity of >> the entire discipline. >> >> To be honest, I've even managed to meet a few good lawyers. >> >> (For the record, I'm aware of more lousy or ineffective IT professionals >> than stellar ones...) >> >> >> * * >> >> *ASB* *http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker* *Harnessing the Advantages of >> Technology for the SMB market… >> >> * >> >> >> >> On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 4:32 PM, John Cook <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Isn’t that kind of like saying “you need smarter users”? If only I >>> could pick and choose……..**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> *John W. 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Baker [mailto:[email protected]] >>> *Sent:* Monday, August 01, 2011 4:18 PM >>> >>> >>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues >>> *Subject:* Re: PMI PMP Certification**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> You need to be working with better project and program managers. >>> **** >>> >>> *ASB***** >>> >>> *http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker***** >>> >>> *Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market…***** >>> >>> >>> >>> **** >>> >>> On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 4:04 PM, Tigran K <[email protected]> wrote:**** >>> >>> The only thing I see project managers do is schedule meetings, take notes >>> that nobody will see and get in the way of good technical discussions.** >>> ** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> Can somebody tell me why they need a cert program to use outlook? >>> >>> --Tigran**** >>> >>> >>> On Aug 1, 2011, at 12:52 PM, Jacob <[email protected]> wrote:**** >>> >>> Know the input and outputs for each process and the 30ish formulas. The >>> exam is not easy.**** >>> >>> **** >>> >>> If you have not applied for the test, you better get on it. If you are >>> lucky to get audited, I do not think you will be able to get it in by the 31 >>> st. You also have to document 4500 hours of project management >>> experience.**** >>> >>> **** >>> >>> http://www.rmcproject.com/about/pmp-examination-changes.aspx**** >>> >>> **** >>> >>> Also, get Rita’s study guides. Worth it. >>> http://www.rmcproject.com/index.aspx**** >>> >>> **** >>> >>> Jacob**** >>> >>> **** >>> >>> **** >>> >>> *From:* John Hornbuckle [mailto:[email protected]] >>> *Sent:* Monday, August 01, 2011 11:14 AM >>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues >>> *Subject:* OT: PMI PMP Certification**** >>> >>> **** >>> >>> I was wondering if there were any certified PMPs out there that could >>> give me pointers on the exam.**** >>> >>> **** >>> >>> I had planned on taking it in around two months, but I just caught wind >>> of the fact PMI is changing it on August 31. So now I’m cramming to see if I >>> can get it done before the change.**** >>> >>> **** >>> >>> I took two project management courses in grad school pretty recently, and >>> am currently reading a couple of PMP study guides.**** >>> >>> **** >>> >>> **** >>> >>> John Hornbuckle**** >>> >>> MIS Department**** >>> >>> Taylor County School District**** >>> >>> www.taylor.k12.fl.us**** >>> >>> **** >>> >>> >>> ** >>> >> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ >> ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ >> >> --- >> To manage subscriptions click here: >> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ >> or send an email to [email protected] >> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin >> > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > --- > To manage subscriptions click here: > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > or send an email to [email protected] > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > --- > To manage subscriptions click here: > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > or send an email to [email protected] > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to [email protected] with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
