Back then, we typically commented “50-to-1”. Now, it’s more like “500-to-1”.
Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: John Cook [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 8:40 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares And much suffering ensued. Back then there was typically a smaller ratio of tech staff to users, at least that's the way it was for environments I was familiar with. John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership for Strong Families ________________________________ From: Andrew S. Baker <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> To: NT System Admin Issues <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Sent: Tue Aug 23 20:15:17 2011 Subject: Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares I recall the early PC days lacking centralized management, sufficient tools, etc., relative to the dominant computing platform of the time... History will repeat itself. ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market… On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 6:53 PM, James Hill <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: I don’t doubt that they will. What I’m concerned about is having the right tools available to centrally manage these devices. We only have about 10 ipads and they are a PITA simply because we don’t have the tools to centrally manage them. iOS updates are reasonably frequent (and necessary) and when you want to apply this or deploy an app it’s a manual process. Consumer devices have penetrated into business to the point where they are the preferred option. It’s not just Apple products either, Windows Phone has the same non central management issues. There is no tool to centrally manage it yet either. I believe it is coming with V-Next but so is Christmas. It reminds me of the pre SOE days where it was a nightmare to manage large environments. We started locking things down, standardising and using tools to automate processes. The difference now is that we have a far more tech savvy (or at least tech eager) customer. From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] Sent: Wednesday, 24 August 2011 12:35 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares The non-PC devices in my house are growing... I've still got more desktop/server/laptop devices for now, but that is steadily changing. Plus, my house is not typical even from a PC standpoint (I have twice as many computing devices as people). As soon as tablets routinely hit the $250-400 price range, they will decimate laptop and netbook adoption. In fact, netbook adoption is starting to suffer<http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/237330/intel_ponders_netbook_strategy_with_tablet_rise.html>, as these are simply competing with notebooks which are more powerful. A tablet, at least, offers new options for computing, which are more convenient than a netbook or laptop. And better battery life in many cases. ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market… On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 10:08 AM, Steven M. Caesare <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: True. Unlike time past, where a file was expected to be some PC-centric thing (a Word doc, spreadsheet, configuration file, etc…) Everything is a file these days: You music? Check. Movies? Check Pictures? Check. Heck, I suspect most people have more _NON-PC_ devices consuming files than PC’s these days… -sc From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 9:24 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares Accessing documents is a "PC thing"? Is email a PC thing? What about web browsing? It's not like the request was to create 3D movies via a tablet, which one could argue is more of a PC thing... -ASB: http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker Sent from my Motorola Droid On Aug 23, 2011 8:30 AM, "John Hornbuckle" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > Agreed. Which was my point very early in this thread-we need to pick the > right tool for the right job. What started this discussion was essentially a > question of how to get an iPad to do PC stuff, which implies that maybe the > iPad isn't the right tool for that particular job. > > I'm a Disney junkie, so I found this interesting: > > www.youtube.com/watch?v=nE8PvsRqjkg<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nE8PvsRqjkg><http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nE8PvsRqjkg> > > It's a good use of iPads in design and construction. > > But for all the talk of tablets "replacing" PCs, this video shows that we're > not there yet. Watch closely, and you'll see that the video opens showing an > Imagineer's iPad sitting on top of his PC. > > And not just any PC, but a laptop-the specific devices that tablets are said > to be rapidly displacing. > > Of course, he's also running Windows XP. So I have my doubts about how > technologically progressive WDI is. :) > > > John > > > > From: Steven M. Caesare > [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] > Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 12:21 AM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares > > This point seems to be lost on many. > > There are many services to be consumed in this day and age that do not > require a full "computer", and for which a complete PC, or even laptop, > actually can be a disadvantage. > > There's room for multiple devices in the ecosystem. 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