Only on a very limited set of subjects.

I don't think I differ in this from most here - we all have our areas of
expertise, including you.

Kurt

On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 09:28, Jonathan Link <[email protected]>wrote:

> Yes, everyone is (or the great majority of people are) wrong, you're
> right.  This is your standard song, Kurt.
>
>
>
> On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 12:15 PM, Kurt Buff <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Both 'Man, Economy and State' and 'Human Action' start from first
>> principles, and cover the ground far better than, for instance Samuelson,
>> which I've read in several editions, and which I can't recommend to anyone.
>>
>> What is taught in most university courses is just flat wrong, both in
>> approach and content.
>>
>> Kurt
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 01:17, Ken Schaefer <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>  You will find transactions costs in any microeconomics text too. And
>>> whilst they can be related, they are not the same.****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> None of the titles you listed before is actually a microeconomics text
>>> that you’d study in 1st year Uni. One needs to start from first
>>> principles – positive economics – not normative economics, which your list
>>> of texts is. Start from the theories of how things work, rather than reading
>>> books arguing about how the world should be.****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> Cheers****
>>>
>>> Ken****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> *From:* Kurt Buff [mailto:[email protected]]
>>> *Sent:* Friday, 9 September 2011 9:59 PM
>>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>>> *Subject:* Re: DigiNotar compromise****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> This is just another argument about imperfect information. See my earlier
>>> response.****
>>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 22:45, Ken Schaefer <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> ****
>>>
>>> Government regulations are not necessarily anti-competitive. Property
>>> rights are typically enforced through government regulation, as most other
>>> systems tend to break down in “right is might” chaos.****
>>>
>>>  ****
>>>
>>> In some areas, transaction costs inhibit the market: e.g. it simply costs
>>> too much for an individual to do their due diligence on a purchase. So
>>> governments set minimum standards, so that consumers can purchase with a
>>> level of confidence without needing to resort to their own
>>> investigation/verification.****
>>>
>>>  ****
>>>
>>>  ****
>>>
>>> *From:* Kurt Buff [mailto:[email protected]]
>>> *Sent:* Friday, 9 September 2011 11:59 AM****
>>>
>>>
>>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>>> *Subject:* Re: DigiNotar compromise****
>>>
>>>  ****
>>>
>>> Alrighty then.****
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If you want us all to be more precise, I'll restate:
>>>
>>> Laws and regulations that inhibit the free exercise of individual's
>>> rights to their own property and right of contract (and by individuals I
>>> don't mean corporations), deny the ability of the participants in the
>>> marketplace (i.e., those who are buying and selling) to gain a correct
>>> signal in regard to supply and demand. If you can't sell what you have to me
>>> at a price and under conditions agreed to by both of us, we will not be
>>> making a transaction that satisfies our full mutual requirements. One of us,
>>> buyer or seller, will be come out behind on the transaction.
>>>
>>> Government regulations are by definition anti-competitive.
>>>
>>> This is basic economics.
>>>
>>> Kurt****
>>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 19:53, Andrew S. Baker <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> ****
>>>
>>> The *market* makes decisions?
>>>
>>> Where is this mythical market?  The market is based on people, and if
>>> they can't be trusted to make good decisions without oversight when grouped
>>> together under the banner of government, they cannot be trusted to do so
>>> when grouped together under the banner of corporation or market.
>>>
>>> People, as we have oft observed on this very list, tend to make very bad
>>> decision -- more so in groups.
>>>
>>> *Theoretically* a free market system will operate better than many others
>>> under most circumstances, but in practice, a *little* bit of regulation is
>>> needed to make sure that the rules largely remain throughout the game the
>>> way they did at the beginning of the game.   Most regulation, it might
>>> easily be observed, has come about when the leaders in a given market got
>>> too free with said market, to the detriment of other players in that market.
>>>
>>> But hey, don't let reality stop you from fawning over what could be...
>>>
>>> Oh, and I fully expect that in addition to "iPhone thread!" we're now
>>> going to have to endure months of "DigiNotar thread!"
>>> ****
>>>
>>>  ****
>>>
>>> *ASB*****
>>>
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>>>
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>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 6:28 PM, Kurt Buff <[email protected]> wrote:**
>>> **
>>>
>>>  And in practice.
>>>
>>> Outside the textbook, laws and regulation which don't respect property
>>> and contract rights robs the market of its ability to make decisions.***
>>> *
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ****
>>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 13:28, Andrew S. Baker <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> ****
>>>
>>>  *>>**A free market doesn't guarantee good results, just better results
>>> than anything else.*
>>> ****
>>>
>>> In theory.  Outside of the textbook, the abundant use of free market
>>> often requires regulatory intervention...****
>>>
>>> *ASB*****
>>>
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>>>
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>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 3:52 PM, Kurt Buff <[email protected]> wrote:**
>>> **
>>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 10:28, Ben Scott <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> > On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 11:05 PM, Ken Schaefer <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>>  There's no rule that says that has to happen.  It would appear
>>> >>> that most people chose price over security, and so far that has
>>> >>> generally meant that those who value security more are left
>>> >>> without any really satisfying vendor.
>>> >>****
>>>
>>> >> If there's a market, or even if someone thinks there's a market, plus
>>> a
>>> >> way to make it profitable, then you can bet someone will start
>>> something up.
>>> >
>>> >  You ignore startup costs, network effects, and other
>>> barriers-to-entry.
>>> >
>>> >  Start, sure.  Succeed or see any real adoption?  Not so certain.
>>> > The free market is not a panacea.****
>>>
>>> A free market doesn't guarantee good results, just better results than
>>> anything else.
>>>
>>> Kurt****
>>>
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