I agree with Dave on this one, I think that 27K for 3 people is a little
steep. If you could provide the resources on-site and have someone come
train you at your site, possibly you get the training for less and get a
lot more out of it, because you can apply it directly to how your
network works and what your folks need. 

EZ

Edward E. Ziots
CISSP, Network +, Security +
Security Engineer
Lifespan Organization
Email:[email protected]
Cell:401-639-3505



-----Original Message-----
From: David Lum [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 12:37 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Staff training

" Others (like me) learn best by setting up a lab and trashing and
rebuilding and testing and breaking and fixing the product several dozen
times."

Sounds like our production environment!

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 9:23 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Staff training

The value of classroom training is completely dependent on the
instructor. An instructor who knows what the heck s/he is talking about
and has real experience in the product is invaluable. An instructor who
reviewed the MOC and ran through it the weekend before the class started
and has little-to-no real experience is worthless.

As an instructor myself, I've sat through both kinds of training
classes.

I would say that the number you quote is just a little on the high side,
but it's in line with a quality training class.

Some people learn better in a classroom environment. Others learn better
with books. Others (like me) learn best by setting up a lab and trashing
and rebuilding and testing and breaking and fixing the product several
dozen times.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Ralph Smith [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 12:17 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Staff training


This may be a little OT, but I was just pricing out some training for 3
staff here with the idea of sending them to some classroom training for
Windows 7 and Server 2008 administration.
If I target the courses related to "MCITP Enterprise Desktop
Administrator on Windows 7" certification and the "MCITP Server
Administrator on Windows Server 2008" certification, (and this is from
ONLC because they have a local office, but New Horizons seems to be
about the same) the appropriate courses include three five day courses
and one three day course.

The total cost at their published prices would be almost $27,000 for
three staff.  I don't think I can get that through our budget process.  

For those who provide training for staff development, is this kind of
classroom training the way to go?  Are there other alternatives for
classroom training, or do you use other training resources such as video
training from places like Trainsignal?

I'm looking for a bit of a reality check, as well as suggestions.  We
haven't provided this kind of staff training up to now, so I have no
experience in this area.  For myself I have relied on Google Training
and some good books, but I was looking for something more
formal/structured.

Appreciate any comments and advice.

Ralph

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