> Having done down the path of virtualization, I can hardly think about
> low-power CPUs for serving functions anymore...

Agreed, but I have the possibility of running lower-end servers at individual 
schools. It was just a thought.

What I need to do is re-evaluate our servers as a whole. Thanks for the info.


--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District


----- Original Message -----
From: Andrew S. Baker
[mailto:[email protected]]
To: NT System Admin Issues
[mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thu, 03 Nov 2011
12:09:31 -0700
Subject: Re: How much processing power do you need? (WAS: So,
my Mac Mini server arrived today...)


> Atoms and Dual Atoms are fine for most basic serving tasks, which is why
> you see lots of NAS appliances and other types of appliances sporting them.
> 
> My quad-core i5 processors are having a blast at virtualization, and rarely
> complain to me about under utilization.
> 
> Having done down the path of virtualization, I can hardly think about
> low-power CPUs for serving functions anymore...
> 
> 
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> 
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> 
> 
> On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 2:46 PM, Matthew W. Ross
> <[email protected]>wrote:
> 
> > So, since this has come up, I'm curious on how much processing power is
> > actually needed for most services?
> >
> > I have some Quad-Core Xeons which are absolutely underutilized. They are
> > doing their jobs (usually serving user home folders and standard Active
> > Directory duties) with plenty of horsepower to spare. So it makes me
> > wonder: Has anybody tried Windows Server on an Atom?
> >
> > Take all the other bottlenecks out of the equation: Plenty of RAM, fast HD
> > or SSD... does the 1.8 dual core Atom (or the Socket 1155 Celeron) handle
> > most tasks just as well as a Dual 6Core Xeon? Aka, could I be getting away
> > with less expensive hardware to do the same duties?
> >
> > I realize if I'm encoding or rendering, the hefty Xeon is a much better
> > bet. Or if I'm trying to run VMs, the Atom's not even an option.
> >
> >
> > --Matt Ross
> > Ephrata School District
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Steve Ens
> > [mailto:[email protected]]
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > [mailto:[email protected]]
> > Sent: Thu, 03 Nov 2011
> > 11:26:11 -0700
> > Subject: Re: So, my Mac Mini server arrived today...
> >
> >
> > > I wouldn't.  Just illustrating that it is a lower horsepower CPU.  Good
> > for
> > > some things, and not for others.  I think the NEO is pretty affordable
> > too.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 1:03 PM, Matthew W. Ross
> > > <[email protected]>wrote:
> > >
> > > > You could upgrade it to a real (albeit low-power) dual-core Athlon.
> > > >
> > > > Why would you want to run Autocad on a small form factor PC?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --Matt Ross
> > > > Ephrata School District
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: Steve Ens
> > > > [mailto:[email protected]]
> > > > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > > > [mailto:[email protected]]
> > > > Sent: Thu, 03 Nov 2011
> > > > 10:40:10 -0700
> > > > Subject: Re: So, my Mac Mini server arrived today...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > I think AMD Neo....but close enough.  great for everyday use, but
> > > > wouldn't
> > > > > want to run Autocad on it.  For media playout it runs fine too.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 12:09 PM, Jonathan Link
> > > > > <[email protected]>wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I left out similar specs...  Isnt that an Atom processor?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 12:53 PM, Steve Ens <[email protected]>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> The Acer Revo series is very nice...great for the living room.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 11:41 AM, Jonathan Link
> > > > > <[email protected]>wrote:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>> It's a nice form factor.  Not aware of anything that is quite
> > that
> > > > small
> > > > > >>> in the PC world off the top of my head.
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 12:33 PM, David Lum <[email protected]>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>> "I have a few "Mac Hardware, Windows OS" people in our
> district,
> > > and
> > > > > >>>> they run great."
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> Out of curiosity....why?
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> -----Original Message-----
> > > > > >>>> From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:[email protected]]
> > > > > >>>> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 9:06 AM
> > > > > >>>> To: NT System Admin Issues
> > > > > >>>> Subject: Re: So, my Mac Mini server arrived today...
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> VMware Fusion. I used to run Virtualbox, but VMWare is a much
> > > > slicker
> > > > > >>>> product. Parallels is an excellent product, though.
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> But if you want to run windows (and only windows) on it, just
> > > > install
> > > > > >>>> it directly. I have a few "Mac Hardware, Windows OS" people in
> > our
> > > > > >>>> district, and they run great.
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> --Matt Ross
> > > > > >>>> Ephrata School District
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > >>>> From: Harry Singh
> > > > > >>>> [mailto:[email protected]]
> > > > > >>>> To: NT System Admin Issues
> > > > > >>>> [mailto:[email protected]]
> > > > > >>>> Sent: Thu, 03 Nov 2011
> > > > > >>>> 08:42:40 -0700
> > > > > >>>> Subject: Re: So, my Mac Mini server arrived today...
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> > Matthew - Are you running Parralells (or whatever the Apple
> VM
> > > > tech
> > > > > is
> > > > > >>>> > called) or VMware to run the Windows 7 VM simultaneously?
> > Single
> > > > NIC,
> > > > > >>>> > so i assume it's running in a Bridged NAT mode?
> > > > > >>>> >
> > > > > >>>> > The footprint and hardware makes it something i wouldn't mind
> > > > playing
> > > > > >>>> > around with at home.
> > > > > >>>> >
> > > > > >>>> >
> > > > > >>>> >
> > > > > >>>> > On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 11:33 AM, Matthew W. Ross
> > > > > >>>> > <[email protected]>wrote:
> > > > > >>>> >
> > > > > >>>> > > > Are you running mac os Server or client? any major issues
> > > with
> > > > > >>>> > > > running Server OS as a desktop?
> > > > > >>>> > >
> > > > > >>>> > > We run 10.6 Server on an XServe in the main server room.
> > It's
> > > > doing
> > > > > >>>> > > our Open Directory master stuff.
> > > > > >>>> > >
> > > > > >>>> > > I'm running 10.6 Client on my desktop.
> > > > > >>>> > >
> > > > > >>>> > >
> > > > > >>>> > > --Matt Ross
> > > > > >>>> > > Ephrata School District
> > > > > >>>> > >
> > > > > >>>> > >
> > > > > >>>> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > >>>> > > From: justino garcia
> > > > > >>>> > > [mailto:[email protected]]
> > > > > >>>> > > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > > > > >>>> > > [mailto:[email protected]]
> > > > > >>>> > > Sent: Thu, 03 Nov 2011
> > > > > >>>> > > 05:51:20 -0700
> > > > > >>>> > > Subject: Re: So, my Mac Mini server arrived today...
> > > > > >>>> > >
> > > > > >>>> > >
> > > > > >>>> > > > Are you running mac os Server or client? any major issues
> > > with
> > > > > >>>> > > > running Server OS as a desktop?
> > > > > >>>> > > >
> >
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