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From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 03:50 PM To: NT System Admin Issues <[email protected]> Subject: RE: [OT] Stats about IT You should’ve been at Connections this year. ☺ I gave a 75 minute presentation on Office 365 “Lessons Learned� and caveats. (Note: I am not – and was not – bashing Office 365. It has applicability for many companies. But I’m seeing other companies getting into it without actually knowing what they are signing up for.) Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: David [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 12:42 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: [OT] Stats about IT Did you drill down far enough on the 365 site to see that you can get stand-alone hosted email for $5/month? I'm working a project for a company and that's one of the services we recommend if they're going to 365. David On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 3:48 AM, Tom Miller <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Anyone on the list using "cloud" services? I looked at Office 365 and found it to be far more expensive than what I pay now. But, I can see replicating my web sites and databases to a cloud just for the space. >>> Ken Schaefer <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> >>> 11/2/2011 10:57 PM >>> Really? Gartner is saying that Cloud has entered the “meaningless hype� stage… http://www.infoworld.com/d/cloud-computing/its-official-cloud-computing-now-meaningless-169416 CIOs and CEOs still pay attention to this stuff because at least there is some effort to justify the conclusion. Most IT people I’ve run into couldn’t write a business case to save their lives. Cheers Ken From: Rod Trent [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] Sent: Wednesday, 2 November 2011 11:47 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [OT] Stats about IT Yeah…their track record isn’t great (particularly over the last couple years), however, CIOs and CEOs still eat them up. Gartner, right now, is promoting the Cloud like there’s nothing else. 3 years ago it was “outsourcing�. Now, companies are bringing resources back in-house because they realized... “Oops� that didn’t work. You just have to be very careful with “industry� information. It can be just as politically motivated as anything else. From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:[email protected]]<mailto:[mailto:[email protected]]> Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 11:24 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: [OT] Stats about IT To me, Gartner's stats are just derived from flawed research and easily subverted questions. ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market… On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 11:09 AM, Rod Trent <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Tada… Particularly Gartner’s, IMO… From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 10:43 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [OT] Stats about IT Or just make them up…as 95% of all statistics are. From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:[email protected]]<mailto:[mailto:[email protected]]> Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 9:19 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: [OT] Stats about IT You're going to want to check with the research firms: Gartner, IDC, Forrester, ITIC, etc (http://itic-corp.com/) ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. 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