No offense taken, I didn't implement this poorly managed situation and have 
made progress insofar as I have permission to remove users from local admins as 
we roll out Windows 7.

I have also proposed to my manager sending the following to the installed user 
base:

"Your machine has been identified as having  version 8 of Adobe Acrobat 
Standard and the issue here is Adobe has stopped supporting version 8 of this 
product. This means they are no longer releasing security updates which means a 
greater risk of machines with this version getting exploited by malware. Please 
reply to this e-mail letting us know A. If you still use it and B What do you 
use it for.

In many cases there are free (and more secure) ways to accomplish what many 
people used to reply on the full version of Acrobat, especially now that in 
Word or Excel you can simply choose "Save as PDF" even if you don't have Adobe 
installed.

If you still need a full version of Acrobat - which is about $200 - you will 
need to fill out a software request form and have the purchase approved my your 
manager."

Dave


From: Jonathan Link [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, November 04, 2011 6:27 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Adobe 8 suppoer dropped- Thoughts

That's simply not true.  Old buggy software just becomes the vector for 
exploitation in a (no offense David) poorly administred environment.

This would be a case of two wrongs making a wronger.  Inadequate patching 
levels coupled with inadequate security implementation makes for an even bigger 
problem.

I would go for one or the other.  I'd be going to my superiors and saying 
somethign to the effect of:  If we can't afford to spend $$$ on Adobe updates, 
then we had better change our behavior with regard to running as administrator 
all day long.  It's a big security risk, which will only become bigger if we 
can't update our software.




On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 9:15 AM, Crawford, Scott 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Yeah, on second thought, I wouldn't worry about Adobe at this point. As Al 
points out, old buggy software is far from your biggest concern.


Sent from my Palm Pre on the Now Network from Sprint

________________________________
On Nov 4, 2011 7:46 AM, David Lum 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Neat, our user base meets all those criteria...as noted in previous threads, 
all (eight) of our DA's (except me) log in and browse as DA's, and 99.5% of our 
user base are local admins.

From: Crawford, Scott 
[mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>]
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 3:09 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Adobe 8 suppoer dropped- Thoughts

I'd be petrified. Double that if users using it are browsing the internet from 
the machine with them installed. Triple that if they're browsing as a local 
admin. Quadruple if they're domain admins.

On the other hand, if they're off network (and will stay that way) for some 
reason, I'd be ok.

From: David Lum [mailto:[email protected]]<mailto:[mailto:[email protected]]>
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 5:04 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Adobe 8 suppoer dropped- Thoughts

We have a few dozen systems with Adobe 8 Standard which after today will no 
longer be patched with security updates. What is your guys' opinion on risk of 
leaving them as-is and no upgrading to a newer version?
David Lum
Systems Engineer // NWEATM
Office 503.548.5229<tel:503.548.5229> // Cell (voice/text) 
503.267.9764<tel:503.267.9764>


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