"On a long enough timeline the survival rate for everyone drops to zero."

On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 7:32 PM, Crawford, Scott <[email protected]>wrote:

>  I guess if you’re doused in gasoline and you’re running around in a
> machine shop, it would be beneficial to ban smoking, but either way you’re
> prolly toast.****
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> *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:[email protected]]
> *Sent:* Friday, November 04, 2011 9:14 AM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Adobe 8 suppoer dropped- Thoughts****
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> Sure, but some battles can't be won...****
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> On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 10:00 AM, Crawford, Scott <[email protected]>
> wrote:****
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> Dont get me wrong. I agree it's a major problem, but running as DA is what
> I would be most concerned about.****
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> Sent from my Palm Pre on the Now Network from Sprint****
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> On Nov 4, 2011 8:30 AM, Jonathan Link <[email protected]> wrote: ***
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> That's simply not true.  Old buggy software just becomes the vector for
> exploitation in a (no offense David) poorly administred environment.  ****
>
>  ****
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> This would be a case of two wrongs making a wronger.  Inadequate patching
> levels coupled with inadequate security implementation makes for an even
> bigger problem.****
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>  ****
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> I would go for one or the other.  I'd be going to my superiors and saying
> somethign to the effect of:  If we can't afford to spend $$$ on Adobe
> updates, then we had better change our behavior with regard to running as
> administrator all day long.  It's a big security risk, which will only
> become bigger if we can't update our software.****
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>  ****
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> On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 9:15 AM, Crawford, Scott <[email protected]>
> wrote:****
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>  Yeah, on second thought, I wouldn't worry about Adobe at this point.
> As Al points out, old buggy software is far from your biggest concern.
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> Sent from my Palm Pre on the Now Network from Sprint****
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> On Nov 4, 2011 7:46 AM, David Lum <[email protected]> wrote: ****
>
> Neat, our user base meets all those criteria…as noted in previous threads,
> all (eight) of our DA’s (except me) log in and browse as DA’s, and 99.5% of
> our user base are local admins.****
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>  ****
>
> *From:* Crawford, Scott [mailto:[email protected]]
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 03, 2011 3:09 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Adobe 8 suppoer dropped- Thoughts****
>
>  ****
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> I’d be petrified. Double that if users using it are browsing the internet
> from the machine with them installed. Triple that if they’re browsing as a
> local admin. Quadruple if they’re domain admins.****
>
>  ****
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> On the other hand, if they’re off network (and will stay that way) for
> some reason, I’d be ok.****
>
>  ****
>
> *From:* David Lum [mailto:[email protected]]
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 03, 2011 5:04 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Adobe 8 suppoer dropped- Thoughts****
>
>  ****
>
> We have a few dozen systems with Adobe 8 Standard which after today will
> no longer be patched with security updates. What is your guys’ opinion on
> risk of leaving them as-is and no upgrading to a newer version?****
>
> *David Lum*
> Systems Engineer // NWEATM
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