Concur 100%. Granted there are some notable exceptions but by and large I really have to agree with you.
Even many of the so-called "architect" and "enterprise" communities are really kind of a joke when it comes to deriving any value that makes it worthwhile to participate. You get people asking totally lame questions they should be able to figure out in their spare bedroom lab or a few minutes on google, recruiters, sales droids hawking their wares etc and the truly knowledgeable folks move on because of the high noise/sig ratio. From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, November 04, 2011 9:59 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [OT] Stats about IT I see very little enterprise architecture and integration involvement in communities. I see more technical line-level engineering and development questions/answers. Cheers Ken From: Rod Trent [mailto:[email protected]]<mailto:[mailto:[email protected]]> Sent: Friday, 4 November 2011 8:26 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [OT] Stats about IT There's a very small portion now that do not participate in a community somewhere. And, those that do participate in communities tend to do better in their jobs and have a longer IT career. So, I'm pretty sure the demographic that does participate would have value and probably provide better input than the small portion of those that don't. From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:[email protected]]<mailto:[mailto:[email protected]]> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 11:32 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [OT] Stats about IT Communities only reflect a portion of what's going on as well. There's a certain demographic of the IT industry that seems to participate in communities. Cheers Ken From: Rod Trent [mailto:[email protected]]<mailto:[mailto:[email protected]]> Sent: Thursday, 3 November 2011 7:06 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [OT] Stats about IT Do some searches for "gartner cloud" and look at some more recent articles. Even though the graphic in that article was only July 2011, that's really a long time in hype cycles. If someone were smart, they'd find a way to automate data accumulation from communities and develop a real world research org. It would be nice to see "what the industry says" versus "what's really going on". From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:[email protected]]<mailto:[mailto:[email protected]]> Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 10:58 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [OT] Stats about IT Really? Gartner is saying that Cloud has entered the "meaningless hype" stage... http://www.infoworld.com/d/cloud-computing/its-official-cloud-computing-now-meaningless-169416 CIOs and CEOs still pay attention to this stuff because at least there is some effort to justify the conclusion. Most IT people I've run into couldn't write a business case to save their lives. Cheers Ken From: Rod Trent [mailto:[email protected]]<mailto:[mailto:[email protected]]> Sent: Wednesday, 2 November 2011 11:47 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [OT] Stats about IT Yeah...their track record isn't great (particularly over the last couple years), however, CIOs and CEOs still eat them up. Gartner, right now, is promoting the Cloud like there's nothing else. 3 years ago it was "outsourcing". Now, companies are bringing resources back in-house because they realized... "Oops" that didn't work. You just have to be very careful with "industry" information. It can be just as politically motivated as anything else. From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:[email protected]]<mailto:[mailto:[email protected]]> Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 11:24 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: [OT] Stats about IT To me, Gartner's stats are just derived from flawed research and easily subverted questions. ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market... On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 11:09 AM, Rod Trent <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Tada... Particularly Gartner's, IMO... From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 10:43 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [OT] Stats about IT Or just make them up...as 95% of all statistics are. From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:[email protected]]<mailto:[mailto:[email protected]]> Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 9:19 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: [OT] Stats about IT You're going to want to check with the research firms: Gartner, IDC, Forrester, ITIC, etc (http://itic-corp.com/) ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to [email protected] with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
