The Wired article lists a few ways to posibly see it. On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 4:06 PM, Jonathan Link <[email protected]>wrote:
> They probably roll their own. > > > On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 7:02 PM, David <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Found a source saying that Verizon phones do not. Hope they're right, >> 'cuz I sure can't find it (Goodthing™). >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 3:46 PM, Steven Peck <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Evidently it can hide itself. >>> >>> >>> http://androidsecuritytest.com/features/logs-and-services/loggers/carrieriq/ >>> ironic link as the source link is busted >>> >>> http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:GIxQjEZuxRwJ:androidsecuritytest.com/features/logs-and-services/loggers/carrieriq/+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us >>> >>> At the present times there does not appear to be an equivelent on >>> Windows Phone 7 and I suspect the iPhone (but do not know for sure) due to >>> the control both Apple and Microsoft exercise over their platforms. >>> >>> http://www.wpcentral.com/software-recording-data-keystrokes-millions-smartphones-windows-phone-exempt >>> >>> Steven Peck >>> http://www.blkmtn.org >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 2:22 PM, David <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Running a Verizon Droid X, I can't find any trace of CarrierIQ -- and >>>> this is the 2nd time I've searched for it. Good news, I reckon...But I >>>> agree with your assessment. What can be misused, assuredly will be. >>>> >>>> David >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 2:14 PM, Stu Sjouwerman < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Google, What Happened To 'Do No Evil'? >>>>> >>>>> Google: #FAIL! There is a process installed on most recent Android >>>>> phones >>>>> called Carrier IQ. You cannot stop this process. It looks at what is >>>>> happening on the phone and sends every button you press to the IQ app. >>>>> From there, the data — including the content of text messages — is sent >>>>> to Carrier IQ’s servers, in secret. I checked it out on my own HTC >>>>> Android phone from Sprint and sure enough, it's there. >>>>> >>>>> It cannot be turned off without rooting the phone and then replacing >>>>> the >>>>> whole OS. Moreover, even if you stop paying for service from your >>>>> carrier and just use Wi-Fi, your phone still reports to Carrier IQ. >>>>> Dang! >>>>> >>>>> Worse, if you use Google search, and type in a search term, this is >>>>> supposed to be https, so it should be encrypted. However, the Carrier >>>>> IQ software sends it over Wi-Fi in cleartext: #DOUBLEFAIL. >>>>> >>>>> This particular software is installed on 142 million handsets, >>>>> including >>>>> modern BlackBerry and Nokia phones, but no one knew about it until >>>>> Android developer Trevor Eckhart analyzed how it works. >>>>> >>>>> The software secretly logs pretty much anything that happens on a >>>>> phone, >>>>> supposedly for the reason that carriers and phone manufacturers 'can do >>>>> quality control'. Yeah right, maybe so, but Carrier IQ can be served >>>>> with >>>>> subpoenas as well, and then all traffic is right there for Big Brother >>>>> to >>>>> be perused. Me no like. And think about compliance for a moment !!! >>>>> >>>>> Wow, what a privacy and security hole, unbelievable. Here is the 17-min >>>>> video where he clearly shows what is going on. Eckhart calls it a >>>>> rootkit, >>>>> but that is a bit much, though it clearly qualifies as a Backdoor >>>>> Trojan >>>>> in my book. >>>>> >>>>> Probably CIQ started out with the laudable idea to measure carrier and >>>>> handset performance. But that is where it went off the rails in a >>>>> hurry. >>>>> Using code that acts like a backdoor Trojan is totally the wrong way to >>>>> do that. I wonder if they heard of the Sony rootkit debacle of 2005? >>>>> >>>>> It's not clear yet how this went down, did Google cave to the carriers' >>>>> demands to have this running without being able to stop it, to get >>>>> their >>>>> contracts? Did the carriers put it on there without them knowing? Why >>>>> did >>>>> they not scream bloody murder when they found out? Who is behind this? >>>>> >>>>> I would have expected more from Google, and am disappointed. See the >>>>> video for yourself. Not that I have anything to hide, but I'm going >>>>> to root my phone now. Video on WIRED: >>>>> http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/11/secret-software-logging-video/ >>>>> >>>>> Warm regards >>>>> >>>>> Stu Sjouwerman >>>>> >>>>> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ >>>>> ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ >>>>> >>>>> --- >>>>> To manage subscriptions click here: >>>>> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ >>>>> or send an email to [email protected] >>>>> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> David >>>> >>>> _____________________ >>>> * >>>> * >>>> *Under the heading of, "we wish"... >>>> >>>> *"But ambitious encroachments of the federal government, on the >>>> authority of the State governments, would not excite the opposition of a >>>> single State, or of a few States only. They would be signals of general >>>> alarm. ... But what degree of madness could ever drive the federal >>>> government to such an extremity." >>>> >>>> --James Madison, Federalist No. 46, 1788 >>>> >>>> ** >>>> >>>> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ >>>> ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ >>>> >>>> --- >>>> To manage subscriptions click here: >>>> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ >>>> or send an email to [email protected] >>>> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin >>>> >>> >>> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ >>> ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ >>> >>> --- >>> To manage subscriptions click here: >>> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ >>> or send an email to [email protected] >>> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> David >> >> _____________________ >> * >> * >> *Under the heading of, "we wish"... >> >> *"But ambitious encroachments of the federal government, on the >> authority of the State governments, would not excite the opposition of a >> single State, or of a few States only. They would be signals of general >> alarm. ... But what degree of madness could ever drive the federal >> government to such an extremity." >> >> --James Madison, Federalist No. 46, 1788 >> >> ** >> >> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ >> ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ >> >> --- >> To manage subscriptions click here: >> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ >> or send an email to [email protected] >> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin >> > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > --- > To manage subscriptions click here: > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > or send an email to [email protected] > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to [email protected] with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
