The number of servers is irrelevant.  I operate in the same way whether I'm
managing 5, 50, or 500 servers (as it pertains to where/why I logon to them)

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On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 5:27 PM, Matthew W. Ross <[email protected]>wrote:

> >   Yes, that is a bad habit.  Browser exploits are a huge threat vector>
> right now.  And yes, "big name" sites get hit all the time, too --> often
> through ad networks or other outsourced content providers.> Especially if
> you're downloading updates, which implies you're not> current on patches.
>
> The implication is correct. Updates usually require reboots, and
> administrators want reboots to be scheduled. I once did updates/reboots
> during the weekend, thinking nobody would care... but a Journalism class
> complained that they had a midnight deadline that I interrupted. It's like
> I can't reboot _ever_. Forsake any real outage. See:
> http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/1997-01-28/
>
> >   Also, if you find yourself going to the server room on a regular
> > basis[1], you're doing something wrong.  Even when my desk was in the
> > same room as the server, I almost never touched the physical server
> > console.  Remote management tools and RDP are the way to go.
>
> I'll run up the server room if something goes down and won't come back up.
> Otherwise, it's the same here. Happily, that's a rare occasion.
>
> >   If that's your only option, then yes, that is absolutely what you
> > should do.  You're moving the threat off your mission-critical server
> > and on to an ordinary workstation.
>
> I see where you are all coming from. It's probably different when you have
> a large number of servers, even more so when they are all running/balancing
> virtual machines. I have only a few, each doing different jobs.
>
> > [1] With the possible exception of changing backup media.
>
> Hurray for Disk to Disk to Offsite Disk backups! Sm:)e.
>
>
> --Matt Ross
> Ephrata School District
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Ben Scott
> [mailto:[email protected]]
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Fri, 09 Dec 2011
> 12:44:59 -0800
> Subject: Re: things to include in a vm template?
>
>
> > On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 2:43 PM, Matthew W. Ross
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > I have the bad habit of running to my server room, and using the
> server to
> > > download some update that is needed.
> >
> >   Yes, that is a bad habit.  Browser exploits are a huge threat vector
> > right now.  And yes, "big name" sites get hit all the time, too --
> > often through ad networks or other outsourced content providers.
> > Especially if you're downloading updates, which implies you're not
> > current on patches.
> >
> >   Also, if you find yourself going to the server room on a regular
> > basis[1], you're doing something wrong.  Even when my desk was in the
> > same room as the server, I almost never touched the physical server
> > console.  Remote management tools and RDP are the way to go.
> >
> > > So, should I RDP back to my desktop, download the file, then move it
> > > back to the server? If this is the suggested practice, it is a
> little...
> > odd. Sm:)e.
> >
> >   If that's your only option, then yes, that is absolutely what you
> > should do.  You're moving the threat off your mission-critical server
> > and on to an ordinary workstation.
> >
> > -- Ben
> >
> > [1] With the possible exception of changing backup media.
> >
>
>

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