I don't know about Anchorage but Sean Martin is somewhere in AK IIRC On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 12:26 PM, Webster <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hey now, I represent that remark! :) > > It is almost 8:30AM here in Anchorage and it is pitch black outside. But > at leas it is a nice warm 19 degrees F. When I went to the store > yesterday at 3PM, it was 16 degrees and people here were wearing shorts > and t-shirts!!! Even the policemen outside were in short-sleeves. > > Different world here. > > Is anyone on this list in Anchorage? > > > Carl Webster > Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional > http://www.CarlWebster.com <http://www.carlwebster.com/> < > http://www.carlwebster.com/> > > > > > > > On 2/6/12 6:47 AM, "Michael B. Smith" <[email protected]> wrote: > > >I put off starting my own business for YEARS because I was afraid of what > >I already knew. :-) Whereas, in retrospect, I wish I'd done it much > >earlier. > > > >I can think of someone else on this mailing list (who is in Alaska this > >week) who waited even longer than I did. :-) > > > >Regards, > > > >Michael B. Smith > >Consultant and Exchange MVP > >http://TheEssentialExchange.com <http://theessentialexchange.com/> > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:[email protected]] > >Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 10:28 AM > >To: NT System Admin Issues > >Subject: RE: OT - ugh! > > > >I remember reading something awhile back stating that the reason that > >some "non-college educated" people were able to start successful > >businesses was the fact that they were not "educated" enough to realize > >the risks involved. An interesting thought, isn't it? > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: David Lum [mailto:[email protected]] > >Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 8:33 AM > >To: NT System Admin Issues > >Subject: RE: OT - ugh! > > > >No, you don't need a degree to start a billion dollar company, but you do > >need brains and a lot of hard work. Of course if it's something you > >love, it's not work at all it's a passion, and folks that are passionate > >about what they do are what you're looking for. We're better than our > >less passionate IT workers simply because we ENJOY the work, learning new > >ways to do things, learning how the mechanics of something works, and > >seeking out others who have the same passion. I feel I'm better at > >Windows administration than my fellow SE's simply because my passion for > >it is far higher. > > > >"Sneaking Out to Write Code: You already know how Microsoft was founded. > >Bill Gates and Paul Allen dropped out of college to form the company in > >1975. It's that simple: Drop out of college, start a company, and become > >a billionaire, right? Wrong. > > > >Further study reveals that Gates and Allen had thousands of hours of > >programming practice prior to founding Microsoft. First, the two > >co-founders met at Lakeside, an elite private school in the Seattle area. > >The school raised three thousand dollars to purchase a computer terminal > >for the school's computer club in 1968. > > > >A computer terminal at a university was rare in 1968. Gates had access to > >a terminal in eighth grade. Gates and Allen quickly became addicted to > >programming. > > > >The Gates family lived near the University of Washington. As a teenager, > >Gates fed his programming addiction by sneaking out of his parents' home > >after bedtime to use the University's computer. Gates & Allen acquired > >their10,000 hours through this and other clever teenage schemes. When the > >time came to launch Microsoft in 1975, the two were ready." > > > >http://www.wisdomgroup.com/report/10000_hours_of_practice/ > > > >And another recommended read: > >http://blogs.hbr.org/cs/2011/12/a_fast_track_to_10000_hours_of.html > > > >Dave. > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Ben M. Schorr [mailto:[email protected]] > >Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 6:19 PM > >To: NT System Admin Issues > >Subject: RE: OT - ugh! > > > >Apparently you wouldn't HAVE to get a degree to work at Microsoft or > >Facebook. Well...at least not to be CEO of either... > > > >Ben M. Schorr > >Roland Schorr & Tower > >www.rolandschorr.com | www.officeforlawyers.com | Twitter: @bschorr > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: David Lum [mailto:[email protected]] > >Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 7:30 > >To: NT System Admin Issues > >Subject: RE: OT - ugh! > > > >"This position requires a degree. Sorry. Click." > >Wow. I can see the college degree being a tiebreaker, but I can only > >guess the person making that statement doesn't fully understand the tech > >industry? Or, maybe not having gone to college myself I don't understand > >that thinking. > > > >It could have also been their way of backing out, instead of saying "we > >changed our minds on our needs" or "we hired from inside". I've heard of > >that kind of thing before - where what the person not getting hired > >wasn't told what was really happening. > > > >Dave > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Webster [mailto:[email protected]] > >Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 5:16 PM > >To: NT System Admin Issues > >Subject: RE: OT - ugh! > > > >Last year I was in the final interview for a Citrix Architect position > >for a very large company in Nashville. IIRC, it was like interview #6 or > >7 in the process. I had been talking with the executive for over 45 > >minutes when "all of a sudden" he says "Oh, I'm sorry I didn't realize > >you had no college degree. This position requires a degree. Sorry. > >Click." > > > >I then took MBS' advice and went solo. I say screw FTE! :) > > > > > >Carl Webster > >Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional > >http://www.CarlWebster.com<http://www.carlwebster.com/> > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: MMF [mailto:[email protected]] > >> Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 6:43 PM > >> To: NT System Admin Issues > >> Subject: Re: OT - ugh! > >> > >> Assuming they're being honest, it tells me that they are not very > >> strong in background checking. How could they have missed the fact > >> that you've been with one company for more than 10 years. I've NEVER > >> ever heard of a company offering a job and then withdrawing the offer, > >> period, much less before total background check. I believe that I can > >> fully understand the idea of wanting IT staff that has a varied > >> background which would include more than one job over a decade. I > >> think you are fortunate that you didn't take the job because it sounds > >> to me that the organization isn't of the highest quality, if you catch > >> my drift. Sometimes things happen for the best in spite of your best > >> efforts. They didn't vet you, but how well did you vet them! It's also > >>obvious that they don't recognize talent when they see it! > >> > >> Murray > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: James Hill > >> Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 6:09 PM > >> To: NT System Admin Issues > >> Subject: RE: OT - ugh! > >> > >> I feel for you. > >> > >> But try and look at this way. If they can't see the value you can > >> offer now then it would only be a continual uphill fight if you were > >> employed by them. > >> > >> You are better off with an employer that shares your values. > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Jacob Kisner [mailto:[email protected]] > >> Sent: Thursday, 2 February 2012 9:52 AM > >> To: NT System Admin Issues > >> Subject: Re: OT - ugh! > >> > >> "Because we feel you are not diversified enough to address our issues." > >> > >> Same issues I have addressed over the years poor issue management, no > >> project management, no documentation, crashing servers, IT staff > >> treating the network like a high school lab.. etc. Not only can I stop > >> the bleeding and stabilize the patient (gave then how I would do it), > >> I can implement a more proactive approach to IT management and stop > >> the fires (also gave > >> details.) > >> > >> I guess they rather have the fires... > >> > >> > >> On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 3:27 PM, Don Kuhlman <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >> > That makes no sense - why do they care where you were for 15 > >> > years...Sorry to hear that Jacob. > >> > > >> > I just started a new position - temp for 9 months, nice place - nice > >> > people so far. > >> > > >> > I'm getting into MAC/Linux support so it's a stretch for me (windows > >> > background), but it's a job and a chance to learn. > >> > > >> > Good luck! > >> > > >> > Don K > >> > > >> > ________________________________ > >> > From: Jacob Kisner <[email protected]> > >> > To: NT System Admin Issues <[email protected]> > >> > Sent: Wednesday, February 1, 2012 5:19 PM > >> > Subject: OT - ugh! > >> > > >> > Nothing sucks more than being interviewed for a position at a > >> > different company last Tuesday, then being called Thursday to say we > >> > are going to offer you a position and finally being told today that > >> > we changed our mind... "We did not realize you were with the same > >> > company for 15 years..." WTF? > > > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > --- > To manage subscriptions click here: > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > or send an email to [email protected] > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to [email protected] with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
