Hey now, I represent that remark! :) It is almost 8:30AM here in Anchorage and it is pitch black outside. But at leas it is a nice warm 19 degrees F. When I went to the store yesterday at 3PM, it was 16 degrees and people here were wearing shorts and t-shirts!!! Even the policemen outside were in short-sleeves.
Different world here. Is anyone on this list in Anchorage? Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://www.CarlWebster.com <http://www.carlwebster.com/> On 2/6/12 6:47 AM, "Michael B. Smith" <[email protected]> wrote: >I put off starting my own business for YEARS because I was afraid of what >I already knew. :-) Whereas, in retrospect, I wish I'd done it much >earlier. > >I can think of someone else on this mailing list (who is in Alaska this >week) who waited even longer than I did. :-) > >Regards, > >Michael B. Smith >Consultant and Exchange MVP >http://TheEssentialExchange.com > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:[email protected]] >Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 10:28 AM >To: NT System Admin Issues >Subject: RE: OT - ugh! > >I remember reading something awhile back stating that the reason that >some "non-college educated" people were able to start successful >businesses was the fact that they were not "educated" enough to realize >the risks involved. An interesting thought, isn't it? > >-----Original Message----- >From: David Lum [mailto:[email protected]] >Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 8:33 AM >To: NT System Admin Issues >Subject: RE: OT - ugh! > >No, you don't need a degree to start a billion dollar company, but you do >need brains and a lot of hard work. Of course if it's something you >love, it's not work at all it's a passion, and folks that are passionate >about what they do are what you're looking for. We're better than our >less passionate IT workers simply because we ENJOY the work, learning new >ways to do things, learning how the mechanics of something works, and >seeking out others who have the same passion. I feel I'm better at >Windows administration than my fellow SE's simply because my passion for >it is far higher. > >"Sneaking Out to Write Code: You already know how Microsoft was founded. >Bill Gates and Paul Allen dropped out of college to form the company in >1975. It's that simple: Drop out of college, start a company, and become >a billionaire, right? Wrong. > >Further study reveals that Gates and Allen had thousands of hours of >programming practice prior to founding Microsoft. First, the two >co-founders met at Lakeside, an elite private school in the Seattle area. >The school raised three thousand dollars to purchase a computer terminal >for the school's computer club in 1968. > >A computer terminal at a university was rare in 1968. Gates had access to >a terminal in eighth grade. Gates and Allen quickly became addicted to >programming. > >The Gates family lived near the University of Washington. As a teenager, >Gates fed his programming addiction by sneaking out of his parents' home >after bedtime to use the University's computer. Gates & Allen acquired >their10,000 hours through this and other clever teenage schemes. When the >time came to launch Microsoft in 1975, the two were ready." > >http://www.wisdomgroup.com/report/10000_hours_of_practice/ > >And another recommended read: >http://blogs.hbr.org/cs/2011/12/a_fast_track_to_10000_hours_of.html > >Dave. > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Ben M. Schorr [mailto:[email protected]] >Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 6:19 PM >To: NT System Admin Issues >Subject: RE: OT - ugh! > >Apparently you wouldn't HAVE to get a degree to work at Microsoft or >Facebook. Well...at least not to be CEO of either... > >Ben M. Schorr >Roland Schorr & Tower >www.rolandschorr.com | www.officeforlawyers.com | Twitter: @bschorr > >-----Original Message----- >From: David Lum [mailto:[email protected]] >Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 7:30 >To: NT System Admin Issues >Subject: RE: OT - ugh! > >"This position requires a degree. Sorry. Click." >Wow. I can see the college degree being a tiebreaker, but I can only >guess the person making that statement doesn't fully understand the tech >industry? Or, maybe not having gone to college myself I don't understand >that thinking. > >It could have also been their way of backing out, instead of saying "we >changed our minds on our needs" or "we hired from inside". I've heard of >that kind of thing before - where what the person not getting hired >wasn't told what was really happening. > >Dave > >-----Original Message----- >From: Webster [mailto:[email protected]] >Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 5:16 PM >To: NT System Admin Issues >Subject: RE: OT - ugh! > >Last year I was in the final interview for a Citrix Architect position >for a very large company in Nashville. IIRC, it was like interview #6 or >7 in the process. I had been talking with the executive for over 45 >minutes when "all of a sudden" he says "Oh, I'm sorry I didn't realize >you had no college degree. This position requires a degree. Sorry. >Click." > >I then took MBS' advice and went solo. I say screw FTE! :) > > >Carl Webster >Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://www.CarlWebster.com > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: MMF [mailto:[email protected]] >> Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 6:43 PM >> To: NT System Admin Issues >> Subject: Re: OT - ugh! >> >> Assuming they're being honest, it tells me that they are not very >> strong in background checking. How could they have missed the fact >> that you've been with one company for more than 10 years. I've NEVER >> ever heard of a company offering a job and then withdrawing the offer, >> period, much less before total background check. I believe that I can >> fully understand the idea of wanting IT staff that has a varied >> background which would include more than one job over a decade. I >> think you are fortunate that you didn't take the job because it sounds >> to me that the organization isn't of the highest quality, if you catch >> my drift. Sometimes things happen for the best in spite of your best >> efforts. They didn't vet you, but how well did you vet them! It's also >>obvious that they don't recognize talent when they see it! >> >> Murray >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: James Hill >> Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 6:09 PM >> To: NT System Admin Issues >> Subject: RE: OT - ugh! >> >> I feel for you. >> >> But try and look at this way. If they can't see the value you can >> offer now then it would only be a continual uphill fight if you were >> employed by them. >> >> You are better off with an employer that shares your values. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Jacob Kisner [mailto:[email protected]] >> Sent: Thursday, 2 February 2012 9:52 AM >> To: NT System Admin Issues >> Subject: Re: OT - ugh! >> >> "Because we feel you are not diversified enough to address our issues." >> >> Same issues I have addressed over the years poor issue management, no >> project management, no documentation, crashing servers, IT staff >> treating the network like a high school lab.. etc. Not only can I stop >> the bleeding and stabilize the patient (gave then how I would do it), >> I can implement a more proactive approach to IT management and stop >> the fires (also gave >> details.) >> >> I guess they rather have the fires... >> >> >> On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 3:27 PM, Don Kuhlman <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > That makes no sense - why do they care where you were for 15 >> > years...Sorry to hear that Jacob. >> > >> > I just started a new position - temp for 9 months, nice place - nice >> > people so far. >> > >> > I'm getting into MAC/Linux support so it's a stretch for me (windows >> > background), but it's a job and a chance to learn. >> > >> > Good luck! >> > >> > Don K >> > >> > ________________________________ >> > From: Jacob Kisner <[email protected]> >> > To: NT System Admin Issues <[email protected]> >> > Sent: Wednesday, February 1, 2012 5:19 PM >> > Subject: OT - ugh! >> > >> > Nothing sucks more than being interviewed for a position at a >> > different company last Tuesday, then being called Thursday to say we >> > are going to offer you a position and finally being told today that >> > we changed our mind... 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