Only for XP, or also for Win7?

And if you leave the XP record, aging/scavenging cleans it up over time?

From: Todd Lemmiksoo [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 6:53 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Dynamic DNS Deregistration

No, you would need to remove the XP A record manually.
On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 8:23 AM, Miller Bonnie L. 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
...bump

I'll try to shorten the question-when you shut down a domain-joined XP or Win7 
workstation with a static IP, does it dynamically de-register that address from 
DNS (clearing the DNS records, both A and ptr)?  WS08 R2 AD-integrated DNS in a 
single forest/domain.


From: Miller Bonnie L. 
[mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>]
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 10:26 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Dynamic DNS Deregistration

We're having an "issue" with this, and after doing some reading and research, 
I'm wondering if this is actually behaving as expected?

For as long as I can remember many of us here, including myself, have always 
thought Windows computers (these are most XP SP3) that have static IPv4 
addresses should automatically deregister themselves from dynamic DNS when the 
computer is shut down.  Similar DHCP machines would do the same as long as all 
the extra stuff for DHCP is configured correctly.  I honestly don't remember 
where we got this assumption from, but thought we were told this by an 
instructor WAY back in early Win2k training.  Our DNS is AD integrated, single 
forest/domain, set for secure dynamic updates and these are domain-joined 
machines.

But, as we slowly move away from GPO deployed software to SCCM installations, 
we're having more trouble with software not installing.  And, our techs 
continue to remove WinXP machines, replacing with Win7, but re-using the same 
static IPs as they change them out.  I've had at least one tech watching this 
more closely now, and what we're seeing that as they put in new computers and 
re-use the same IP address, the old computers are still there until 
aging/scavenging has completely run its course, or until someone with admin 
rights manually deletes the entries.  They have pretty much always done 
computer replacements this way-if a computer with a static IP gets replaced, 
the static IP gets moved over to the new computer.

Our DNS servers are all WS08 R2, but I believe this still mostly applies:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/816592
And in here, I don't see anything about a computer de-registering itself at 
shutdown.

Does anyone have a better link for the exact scenario and/or what is the 
consensus and expectation of this behavior?  If others have run into this as a 
problem in their environment, what do you do instead to get around it?  For 
example, do you cycle through a set of static IPs different than the originals? 
 Or, do techs switch the machine over to DHCP briefly before final shutdown and 
that would trigger a deregistration?  Our techs are not DNS admins, so manual 
cleanup falls back on a few who are and is not a really good solution.

BTW, I've left out a lot of our DNS config information as things are otherwise 
working as expected.  I don't think a lot of it is relevant, but if something 
matters, please ask.  I've not had the same complaint on our DHCP machines, but 
I honestly have not had a reason to look at it.  The pools are big enough that 
these might mostly be cycling through unused addresses and not reallocating the 
same one before aging/scavenging has already flushed the previously used 
registration.

Thanks!
Bonnie

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