I've started playing with Server 8.  I like the new server manager already
but haven't used much else yet.

 

From: Steven Peck [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Tuesday, 6 March 2012 12:03 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Win 8 CP - Initial thoughts?

 

I keep looking up and the sky is still there.

 

I've been using it on hardware at home since Thursday (not nearly long
enough).  People are doing the same thing they do anytime there is a change.
The Internetz hate it because (it's different/not what I am used to/how dare
they).  

 

Whatever.

 

It took me 30-60 minutes to adjust to navigating around the interface.  I
don't miss the Start button, I just pop down where I used to and wow, there
something is.  As to the metro apps, I am trying them.  So far (baring the
oddities of my live id setup) they are working ok and I am adjusting to the
operational differences.  I figured I would give it more then 5 days of
intermittent use before I actually declared I was going back to the good old
days of DOS!

 

I haven't installed Office yet, but once I do that, poof, there goes most of
the reason I would launch a metro app anyway.  Except Xbox companion, and a
few games, and the people hub is interesting, oh, the picture hub too....  

 

This is the first public generation of the Metro UI.  We're completing our
migration to Windows 7 this year at work.  It would have been last year
except internal politics and the new manager seems to have things on time
this round.  Enterprise will adjust slowly however, our management is making
sure we are watching this change but we don't plan to leap into it.  We are
also not saying no yet as a gut reaction.  We seriously won't even decide
this until next year in any case, however, we will be watching it and the
corporate stuff that will come with it.

 

I am going to do the VHD load on my wife's laptop this weekend since she is
so interested in trying it out.  She is not a techie, usually she just
tolerates it when I update her technology at home.  This time, she is
intrigued and wants to play with it.

 

http://www.hanselman.com/blog/HowToGuideToInstallingAndBootingWindows8Consum
erPreviewOffAVHDVirtualHardDisk.aspx

 

I have met some of the MS UI folks when they came out and interviewed a
bunch of our team last year.  It was interesting.  They seemed like
competent professionals.  I am willing to wait and see if I can deal with
this change in a calm rational manner when we get more information on the
interesting stuff.  GPOs customization options, etc. later this year.

 

I suspect that in the end we will get the same people pulling out that tired
old meme (every other OS is a failure) which isn't really true, or pulling
out the graphics comparing Windows 8 to some early version of Windows that
actually ran on DOS with the hot dog theme set and pretending like there is
some relevant comparison between shortcuts and Live Tiles, memory management
and underlying capabilities.  These will all be the same people who said
Microsoft must address the iPads and smart phones or they will be fail.  Now
mostly, these same people are saying Microsoft is all sorts of fail when
they actually took a bold step in re-imaging their entire line up in a way,
that is starting to look pretty darn interesting (SkyDrive for everyone)

 

Fortunately, we should see the trend in a year.  Maybe some of you with 10
GB list archives will remind us who gets to gloat eh?  I wonder what the
list discussion will be like when people start talking about server 8.

 

Steven Peck

http://www.blkmtn.org

 

 

 



 

On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 2:43 PM, Heaton, Joseph@DFG <[email protected]>
wrote:

Very much agree with this sentiment.

Joe Heaton
ITB - Windows Server Support



-----Original Message-----
From: Ben Scott [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, March 05, 2012 2:22 PM
To: Heaton, Joseph@DFG; NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Win 8 CP - Initial thoughts?

On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 2:58 PM, Jeff Brown <[email protected]>
wrote:
> Yeah, there's  a learning curve, yes it looks different but how
> cool/USEFUL will it be to have the same access to [data] on your phone
> that you have on your desktop??  Or tablet?

 I don't get this sentiment.  It's perfectly possible to have access to the
same data on multiple platforms without running the same software on all of
them.  Indeed, there are plenty of people doing that now, with MSFT on the
desktop and RIM/APPL/GOOG for mobile.

 Additionally, I don't think trying to force the same UI paradigm everywhere
is a good idea.  When I'm sitting at my workstation, I have lots of display
real-estate, a full-sized keyboard.  Lots of windows, lots of foreground
multi-tasking, lots of in-depth work sessions.
Touchscreen is less useful (gorilla arm).  For my handheld, it's more of a
quick reference or fast note taking thing.  I'm a lot less likely to be
doing multiple foreground tasks at once.  Screen real estate is at a
premium.  Touchscreen is preferred.

 While I think it makes a lot of sense for Microsoft to try and standardize
on one platform, I think trying to force the same UI on everyone everywhere
would be a mistake.

-- Ben

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