I would expect that from any SAN hardware vendor.

- Sean

On Mar 13, 2012, at 10:07 AM, "David Mazzaccaro" 
<[email protected]> wrote:

> “NetApp makes good SANs, and their support is great!  (A drive starts to go 
> bad, and you get an email from support asking where to ship it to, etc.  
> Sometimes that is the first and perhaps only indication something is going 
> wrong.)”
>  
> That is GREAT to hear, thx
>  
>  
>  
>  
> From: Richard McClary [mailto:[email protected]] 
> Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 11:54 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: New to virtualization
>  
> I’m really just getting started here myself, but…
>  
> VM NICs  connect to real ESX NICs, and you will need some ESX NICs for 
> redundancy, for management, for a possible DMZ in the future, etc.  Oh yeah – 
> the ESX hosts need NICs for the iSCSI connection to the datastore.  Figure on 
> getting some dedicated network switches as well and work out some subnetting 
> (so the management, kernel, and other connections are not a part of your main 
> LAN).
>  
> NetApp makes good SANs, and their support is great!  (A drive starts to go 
> bad, and you get an email from support asking where to ship it to, etc.  
> Sometimes that is the first and perhaps only indication something is going 
> wrong.)
>  
> From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:[email protected]] 
> Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 10:04 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: New to virtualization
>  
> Hi all,
> 
> I am starting to investigate moving our aging network infrastructure into the 
> virtual world.
> 
> ~ 10 servers, 6-7 years old
> 
> Windows 2003 domain
> 
> Exchange 2003
> 
> Citrix 4.0 farm
> 
> ~190 users
> 
> After some initial discussions w/ a reseller, here’s what they are 
> recommending:
> 
> (3) DL 380 G7 servers (to host the VMs) ~$18,000
> 
> (1) Net App FAS2240 (this is the SAN that would host 12 600GB drives of 
> storage for the VMs) ~$20,000
> 
> VMWare essentials plus kit (VMware software) ~$5200
> 
> (3) MS Windows 2008 R2 Enterprise (this would allow the 3 HP servers to run 4 
> Windows 2008 VMs each)
> 
> I guess the way it would work is that the VMs would reside on the SAN, and 
> the 3 hosts would call up the SAN to load each VM utilizing the host’s CPU, 
> RAM, NIC, etc.)… right?
> 
> I have meetings scheduled w/ 2 other vendors, but verbally both have started 
> the conversation along the same path as above.
> 
> Being very new to VM, does the above scenario seem to make sense? 
> 
> It is hard for me to imagine all that traffic going between the SAN and the 
> host servers w/o creating a huge bottleneck (over gig Ethernet)
> 
> Do people recommend virtualizing every server? 
> 
> Domain controllers? Exchange? Citrix farm (4 server)?
> 
> Shouldn’t something be left physical?
> 
> Is 7 TB of storage enough (probably only 3 usable after array config)? 
> 
> Is the net app a decent appliance? $20k sounds cheap to me…
> 
> I have done a little more reading, and from what I understand w/ 3 Windows 
> Enterprise licenses, I would be limiting myself to 12 VMs.
> 
> However, if I went w/ 3 Windows Datacenter licenses, for a small increase in 
> price - I would get unlimited VMs?
> 
> Which would allow for actually having a testing environment, and better patch 
> deployment?
> 
> Thx
> 
> 
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