Or jumps to conclusions.

 

-sc

 

From: John Cook [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 7:48 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Domain local vs. global vs. universal

 

She's a quick study. 
John W. Cook 
Systems Administrator 
Partnership for Strong Families
 

From: William Robbins [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 06:54 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues <[email protected]> 
Subject: Re: Domain local vs. global vs. universal 
 

Wow...

First you don't read the articles I send, now you infer I'm a loser?  Harsh.  :)

 - Will

 

 





On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 16:40, Lora Cates <[email protected]> wrote:

So I take it you lost?  :)  What, dare I ask, was your position on said matter 
in the arena?

 

-lc

________________________________

From: William Robbins <[email protected]>

To: NT System Admin Issues <[email protected]> 

Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 3:45 PM
Subject: Re: Domain local vs. global vs. universal

 

I'm not entering into the "empty root" arena again.  :)  I will answer the last 
query.  He is that Brian Desmond...which is why I shan't enter that arena again.


 - Will

 

 





On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 15:08, Lora Cates <[email protected]> wrote:

        Well I've inherited what I'll kindly refer to as a "mess."  I'm still 
in the information gathering phase myself as I haven't quite been here 12 days 
yet, and only found this list recently.  So I'll apologize in advance for my 
faux pas.

         

        Basically I was hired to consolidate a plethora of disparate AD 
domains/forests in several geographically dispersed hospital groups into a 
single forest.  I still haven't met with the networking folks, so I don't know 
what shape the WAN is in.  My predecessor went so far as to set up the 
CompanyX.com <http://CompanyX.com>  parent domain and it's empty save the 
defaults, there is also a child domain of US.companyX.com with what appears to 
be the users from corporate.  I've read several debates regarding an empty 
root.  Is there a consensus on yea vs. nay?

         

        Speaking of reading, and apologies for any offense, are you this Brian 
Desmond?  Active Directory: Designing, Deploying, and Running Active Directory, 
Fourth Edition

        -lc

        
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        From: Brian Desmond <[email protected]>

        To: NT System Admin Issues <[email protected]> 

        Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 2:16 PM 

        
        Subject: RE: Domain local vs. global vs. universal

         

        Well the impact is that all uni group membership changes replicate to 
every GC. If you’ve got concerns around WAN utilization, availability, latency, 
etc., then this could be worth looking at. In quite a lot of scenarios, the WAN 
issues that existed circa Windows 2000 don’t exist anymore which makes this a 
less interesting discussion point. Without knowing about your customer’s 
environment and scale it’s hard to say.

         

        I would say that it’s highly unlikely that I would design a new 
multi-domain forest except for some pretty isolated and specific design 
requirements these days. 

         

        Thanks,

        Brian Desmond

        [email protected]

         

        w – 312.625.1438 | c   – 312.731.3132

         

        From: Lora Cates [mailto:[email protected]] 
        Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 1:05 PM 

        
        To: NT System Admin Issues

        Subject: Re: Domain local vs. global vs. universal

         

        I too am looking into this for a coming migration I've been asked to 
design for a customer.  What's the impact to GC's by making everything 
Universal Groups?  Especially in a multi domain, multi forest environment?

         

        -lc

        
________________________________


        From: Brian Desmond <[email protected]> 

         

        To: NT System Admin Issues <[email protected]> 

        Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 12:02 PM 

        
        Subject: RE: Domain local vs. global vs. universal

         

        In a single domain forest (or even many multi-domain domain forests 
today), I would just do all uni groups. 

         

        Thanks,

        Brian Desmond

        [email protected]

         

        w – 312.625.1438 | c   – 312.731.3132

         

        From: David Lum [mailto:[email protected]] 
        Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 11:28 AM
        To: NT System Admin Issues
        Subject: Domain local vs. global vs. universal

         

        Today I found a global group in my AD (created by an SE that wasn’t 
me), but for this function I needed to add a domain local group to it and for 
course, that’s not possible. Someplace I heard in AD pretty much every group 
you use should be domain local unless it’s used for Exchange in which case you 
use Universal.  All groups I create are domain local and it simply works, but I 
know that doesn’t mean it’s right.

         

        Before sending a note to the SE team on this I wanted to get a 
consensus from you guys. Comments?

        David Lum 
        Systems Engineer // NWEATM
        Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764

         

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