I love that game!

Mack S. Bolan



On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 10:50 PM, Steven M. Caesare <[email protected]>wrote:

> Or jumps to conclusions.****
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> -sc****
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> *From:* John Cook [mailto:[email protected]]
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 12, 2012 7:48 PM
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> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Domain local vs. global vs. universal****
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> She's a quick study.
> John W. Cook
> Systems Administrator
> Partnership for Strong Families
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> *From*: William Robbins [mailto:[email protected]]
> *Sent*: Thursday, April 12, 2012 06:54 PM
> *To*: NT System Admin Issues <[email protected]>
> *Subject*: Re: Domain local vs. global vs. universal
>  ****
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> Wow...
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> First you don't read the articles I send, now you infer I'm a loser?
>  Harsh.  :)
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>  - Will****
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> On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 16:40, Lora Cates <[email protected]>
> wrote:****
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> So I take it you lost?  :)  What, dare I ask, was your position on said
> matter in the arena?****
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>  ****
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> -lc****
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> *From:* William Robbins <[email protected]>****
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> *To:* NT System Admin Issues <[email protected]> ****
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> *Sent:* Thursday, April 12, 2012 3:45 PM
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> *Subject:* Re: Domain local vs. global vs. universal
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> I'm not entering into the "empty root" arena again.  :)  I will answer the
> last query.  He is that Brian Desmond...which is why I shan't enter that
> arena again.
> ****
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>  - Will****
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> On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 15:08, Lora Cates <[email protected]>
> wrote:****
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> Well I've inherited what I'll kindly refer to as a "mess."  I'm still in
> the information gathering phase myself as I haven't quite been here 12 days
> yet, and only found this list recently.  So I'll apologize in advance for
> my faux pas.****
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> Basically I was hired to consolidate a plethora of disparate AD
> domains/forests in several geographically dispersed hospital groups into a
> single forest.  I still haven't met with the networking folks, so I don't
> know what shape the WAN is in.  My predecessor went so far as to set up the
> *CompanyX.com* <http://CompanyX.com> parent domain and it's empty save
> the defaults, there is also a child domain of US.companyX.com with what
> appears to be the users from corporate.  I've read several debates
> regarding an empty root.  Is there a consensus on yea vs. nay?****
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> Speaking of reading, and apologies for any offense, are you this Brian
> Desmond?  *Active Directory: Designing, Deploying, and Running Active
> Directory, Fourth Edition*****
>
> -lc****
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> *From:* Brian Desmond <[email protected]>****
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> *To:* NT System Admin Issues <[email protected]> ****
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> *Sent:* Thursday, April 12, 2012 2:16 PM ****
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> *Subject:* RE: Domain local vs. global vs. universal****
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> *Well the impact is that all uni group membership changes replicate to
> every GC. If you’ve got concerns around WAN utilization, availability,
> latency, etc., then this could be worth looking at. In quite a lot of
> scenarios, the WAN issues that existed circa Windows 2000 don’t exist
> anymore which makes this a less interesting discussion point. Without
> knowing about your customer’s environment and scale it’s hard to say.*****
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> * *****
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> *I would say that it’s highly unlikely that I would design a new
> multi-domain forest except for some pretty isolated and specific design
> requirements these days. *****
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> * *****
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> *Thanks,*****
>
> *Brian Desmond*****
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> *[email protected]*****
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> * *****
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> *w – 312.625.1438 | c   – 312.731.3132*****
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> * *****
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> *From:* Lora Cates [mailto:[email protected]]
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 12, 2012 1:05 PM ****
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> *To:* NT System Admin Issues****
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> *Subject:* Re: Domain local vs. global vs. universal****
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> I too am looking into this for a coming migration I've been asked to
> design for a customer.  What's the impact to GC's by making everything
> Universal Groups?  Especially in a multi domain, multi forest environment?
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> -lc****
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> *From:* Brian Desmond <[email protected]> ****
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> *To:* NT System Admin Issues <[email protected]> ****
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> *Sent:* Thursday, April 12, 2012 12:02 PM ****
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> *Subject:* RE: Domain local vs. global vs. universal****
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> *In a single domain forest (or even many multi-domain domain forests
> today), I would just do all uni groups. *****
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> * *****
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> *Thanks,*****
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> *Brian Desmond*****
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> *[email protected]*****
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> * *****
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> *w – 312.625.1438 | c   – 312.731.3132*****
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> *From:* David Lum [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>]
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 12, 2012 11:28 AM
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> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Domain local vs. global vs. universal
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> Today I found a global group in my AD (created by an SE that wasn’t me),
> but for this function I needed to add a domain local group to it and for
> course, that’s not possible. Someplace I heard in AD pretty much every
> group you use should be domain local unless it’s used for Exchange in which
> case you use Universal.  All groups I create are domain local and it simply
> works, but I know that doesn’t mean it’s right.****
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> Before sending a note to the SE team on this I wanted to get a consensus
> from you guys. Comments?****
>
> *David Lum*
> Systems Engineer // NWEATM
> Office 503.548.5229 //* *Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764****
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