I would say for organizations with less than 200 people scheduled downtime is the norm. That is getting shorter with the combination of "Cloud" technologies and as hardware continues to get cheaper. I agree that larger organizations can afford the technology to prevent downtime as their downtime cost around a 24x7 schedule is easily justified with an ROI. I don’t know any SMB's that can't afford an hour downtime in the middle of the night for automatic patching, reboots, etc...and most of them do LOB apps upgrades once or twice a year for a few hours.. Hardly a business case for that kind of tech/software.
Greg Sweers CEO ACTS360.com P.O. Box 1193 Brandon, FL 33509 813-657-0849 Office 813-758-6850 Cell 813-341-1270 Fax -----Original Message----- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 7:15 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: No more SBS Scheduled downtime is a good thing, especially in SMBs - when you don't have monetary resources, you use time and energy. Most small businesses have times when they're not staffed, and those are good times to do patching, upgrading, reconfiguring, etc. Larger businesses have the resources to pull these things off behind the scenes. Kurt On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 3:11 PM, Michael B. Smith <[email protected]> wrote: > Eh, downtime is downtime. Call me oldschool. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 6:07 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: Re: No more SBS > > There have been major outages of several hours each in several of the major > cloud providers at the most inconvenient times - scheduled downtime is one > thing, unscheduled outages another. > > On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 12:19 PM, Steven Peck <[email protected]> wrote: >> eh? Poor uptime records for clouds? >> >> On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 11:57 AM, Kurt Buff <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> This is unfortunate thinking, given the poor uptime record for >>> clouds in general, and it's worse when you consider connectivity >>> issues as part of that equation. >>> >>> Kurt >>> >>> On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 11:16 AM, Rod Trent <[email protected]> wrote: >>> > Microsoft assumes, as do a lot of others, that small business are >>> > the easiest to move to the cloud and actually get the most, >>> > immediate benefit. >>> > No need for on-premise hardware. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[email protected]] >>> > Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 1:48 PM >>> >>> > >>> > >>> > To: NT System Admin Issues >>> > Subject: RE: No more SBS >>> >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > There will continue to be a SBS 2011 Essentials. But it doesn’t >>> > include SQL or Exchange. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > I disagree with their decision, as does every SBS MVP. :-P >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > However, I see it as an ongoing “move to the Enterprise” for Microsoft. >>> > They >>> > are abandoning their small business roots. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > From: Webster [mailto:[email protected]] >>> > Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 1:33 PM >>> >>> > To: NT System Admin Issues >>> > Subject: No more SBS >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > I don’t see the product in the environments I work in but >>> > Microsoft says no more SBS. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > http://www.zdnet.com/microsoft-goes-public-with-windows-server-201 >>> > 2 >>> > -versions-licensing-7000000341/ >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > http://download.microsoft.com/download/4/D/B/4DB352D1-C610-466A-9A >>> > A F-EEF4F4CFFF27/WS2012_Licensing-Pricing_FAQ.pdf >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Q33. Will there be a next version of Windows Small Business Server >>> > 2011 Standard? >>> > >>> > No. Windows Small Business Server 2011 Standard, which includes >>> > Exchange Server and Windows server component products, will be the >>> > final such Windows Server offering. This change is in response to >>> > small business market trends and behavior. The small business >>> > computing trends are moving in the direction of cloud computing >>> > for applications and services such as email, online back-up and >>> > line-of-business tools. 13 >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Q34. 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