<quote>

$40,000 ($12k for AD/Exch,  $8k for XenApp 20k for VMware)

$38,000 (not itemized)

$28,000 ($11k for AD/Ex, $6k  XenApp, $11k for VM)

Do these sound legit?  I have ~190 users if that helps.
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How many PS4 users (also ~190)?  What type of 6.5 licenses (Advanced, 
Enterprise or Platinum)?  There is no supported migration path from PS4 to 
XA6.5.  You will need to migrate to PS4.5 (aka XenApp 5) first IF you want to 
keep your console settings (Administrators, Published Apps/Desktops, Load 
Evaluators, etc.) and Citrix policies.

Thanks


Carl Webster
Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
http://www.CarlWebster.com<http://www.carlwebster.com/>

From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:[email protected]]
Subject: moving to virtual


Greetings,

Getting  very close to moving into the VM world, and have a couple of 
questions...

1) I am trying to figure out if I should go with 8 core or 6 core processors in 
my 3 hosts for my upcoming VMware environment.

The price is about double.  And I'm not sure I need 8 cores.

The layout that has been quoted is as follows:

3 hosts connected to a PS4100XV SAN running VMware Essentials Plus Kit.

The host servers I am looking at are either:

HP DL360 G8 2x Intel(r) Xeon(r) E5-2640 (6 core, 2.50 GHz, 15MB, 95W) $5356 each

HP DL360 G8 2x Intel(r) Xeon(r) E5-2690 (8 core, 2.90 GHz, 20MB, 135W) $10,061 
each

I currently have 8 physical servers (Win2003, E2003, Citrix 4.0) that we will 
be P2V'd.

After I P2V the servers, the plan is to begin creating new Windows 2008 R2 VMs 
and migrating each server's role (2008R2 domain, Exchange 2010, and Citrix 
XenApp 6.5).

I want enough power to be able to run my existing 8 servers in a virtual 
environment and migrate them to AD2008/E2010/XenApp as well as leave some room 
for testing and growth.

2 of the vendors said 6 core is fine, another vendor is quoting 8 core 
processors.

2) The quotes I have for the "services" part of this are:

$40,000 ($12k for AD/Exch,  $8k for XenApp 20k for VMware)

$38,000 (not itemized)

$28,000 ($11k for AD/Ex, $6k  XenApp, $11k for VM)

Do these sound legit?  I have ~190 users if that helps.

I really think 28k is either too aggressive or simply not realistic.  This is 
the same vendor who quoted me (3) single processor servers, so I have to go 
back to them and tell them I want dual proc.

3) For the SAN, I have 2 options:

PS4100XV (12 600GB 15k SAS)  $23,000

NetApp FAS2240 (12 600GB 10k SAS) $22,000

I have 2 vendors pushing the PS4100XV, and the other pushing the NetApp.

>From what I have been told, I'll get better IOPS w/ the 15k drives in the 
>Equalogic.  And fuller feature set.

Any one w/ experiences w/ either of these models want to add their $.02?

This is a completely new world for me, so any help is appreciated!

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
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