On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 12:36 PM, David Mazzaccaro
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> Getting  very close to moving into the VM world, and have a couple of
> questions…
>
> 1) I am trying to figure out if I should go with 8 core or 6 core processors
> in my 3 hosts for my upcoming VMware environment.
>
> The price is about double.  And I’m not sure I need 8 cores.
>
> The layout that has been quoted is as follows:
>
> 3 hosts connected to a PS4100XV SAN running VMware Essentials Plus Kit.
>
> The host servers I am looking at are either:
>
> HP DL360 G8 2x Intel® Xeon® E5-2640 (6 core, 2.50 GHz, 15MB, 95W) $5356 each
>
> HP DL360 G8 2x Intel® Xeon® E5-2690 (8 core, 2.90 GHz, 20MB, 135W) $10,061
> each
>
> I currently have 8 physical servers (Win2003, E2003, Citrix 4.0) that we
> will be P2V’d.
>
> After I P2V the servers, the plan is to begin creating new Windows 2008 R2
> VMs and migrating each server’s role (2008R2 domain, Exchange 2010, and
> Citrix XenApp 6.5).
>
> I want enough power to be able to run my existing 8 servers in a virtual
> environment and migrate them to AD2008/E2010/XenApp as well as leave some
> room for testing and growth.
>
> 2 of the vendors said 6 core is fine, another vendor is quoting 8 core
> processors.
>
> 2) The quotes I have for the “services” part of this are:
>
> $40,000 ($12k for AD/Exch,  $8k for XenApp 20k for VMware)
>
> $38,000 (not itemized)
>
> $28,000 ($11k for AD/Ex, $6k  XenApp, $11k for VM)
>
> Do these sound legit?  I have ~190 users if that helps.
>
> I really think 28k is either too aggressive or simply not realistic.  This
> is the same vendor who quoted me (3) single processor servers, so I have to
> go back to them and tell them I want dual proc.
>
> 3) For the SAN, I have 2 options:
>
> PS4100XV (12 600GB 15k SAS)  $23,000
>
> NetApp FAS2240 (12 600GB 10k SAS) $22,000
>
> I have 2 vendors pushing the PS4100XV, and the other pushing the NetApp.
>
> From what I have been told, I’ll get better IOPS w/ the 15k drives in the
> Equalogic.  And fuller feature set.
>
> Any one w/ experiences w/ either of these models want to add their $.02?
>
> This is a completely new world for me, so any help is appreciated!

We have the same VMware license - Essentials Plus - I just put in an
order with Dell, and am getting 3 R620s.

Each machine has two 8 core procs, and I stuffed each machine with
64gb RAM and 6 Ethernet ports. RAM in these boxes comes as 8x8gb
sticks  - using 4gb sticks reduces memory bus speed, apparently.

Cost around $23K

We have existing Lefthand and EMC (VNXe - beware the limitations [LUNs
limited to 1.99gb and no dedup for iSCSI, dedup requires use as NAS]
that bit me) SANs, so that's not an issue for us.

We currently have about 20 VMs, and I'm looking to virtualize probably
10-15 more.

I have one physical and one virtual DC in the room (two other physical
ones at remote offices).

What kind of "services" are you getting? We do our own installation
and maintenance here.

Kurt

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