So:

$38K @ $150 = 253 hours, or, 6 weeks of work for one resource
$38K @ $175 = 217 hours, or about 5 weeks of work for one resource

Both labor estimates seem a bit on the high side to me. What's the vendor's 
rate?

Thanks,
Brian Desmond
[email protected]

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From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 3:52 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: moving to virtual

Here is the SOW (for $38k)

* Hold a kickoff meeting (one hour; online; 2 resources)
* Review and assess Exchange Environment
* Confirm Active Directory readiness
* Create Discovery documentation (approx.. 4 pages)
* Prepare the Exchange 2010 design
* Provide recommendations for network planning, coexistence planning, and 
policy planning
* Provide recommendations for auxiliary pieces of the architecture, such as 
faxing and mobile devices
* Install and configure 3 VM hosts running VMWare vSphere 5
* Install Server 2008 R2 on physical server for Domain Controller functionality
* Build 6 new Virtual Machines
* Install Server 2008 R2 on new VM's
* Update firmware on Dell Equallogic SAN
* Create Volumes and connect vSphere hosts to volumes
* Upgrade AD to 2008 R2 forest and domain levels
* Install and Configure AD 2008 R2 on one VM
* Install vCenter Server and configure HA on one VM
* Install Server 2008 R2 on three VM's for Citrix XenApp
* Install Citrix XenApp on three VM's
* Install up to 4 applications
* Publish up to 4 Applications
* Procure and install 1 UCC Certificate for the Exchange 2010 environment
* Implement the necessary prerequisites for Exchange 2010 installation
* Perform pre-implementation configuration of Exchange 2010 environment
* Storage setup for new environment (up to 2 Mail Databases)
* CAS/HT/MB Role Installation for 1 Multi-role server
* Modify Exchange 2003 to allow proxying from 2010
* Functionality testing
* Provide implementation issue remediation (up to 4 hours)
* Provide one 2-hour training session to CLIENT Exchange Admin for MB/Public 
Folder migration
* Provide migration issue remediation (up to 2 hours)
* Physical to Virtual (P2V) existing servers in environment
* Retire the Exchange 2003 environment
* Retire 2003 Domain controllers (power down)
* Provide knowledge transfer to CLIENT Exchange/VM Admin (up to 4 hours)
* Provide Post-Implementation Support (up to 8 hours)
* Configure backups for all new machines
* Install anti-virus on all new VM's
* Provide As-Built Documentation of the environment (up to 4 pages)
* Planned onsite visit(s): 1



From: Brian Desmond [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 4:23 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: moving to virtual

I can't comment on the AD/Exchange services costs without knowing what's in the 
scope of work.

As to the storage, the NetApp frame is going to offer you *substantially* more 
functionality than the competing solution, IMO. I'd strongly lean towards 
NetApp's offering especially looking at it as a long term investment.

Thanks,
Brian Desmond
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>

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From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 2:36 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: moving to virtual


Greetings,

Getting  very close to moving into the VM world, and have a couple of 
questions...

1) I am trying to figure out if I should go with 8 core or 6 core processors in 
my 3 hosts for my upcoming VMware environment.

The price is about double.  And I'm not sure I need 8 cores.

The layout that has been quoted is as follows:

3 hosts connected to a PS4100XV SAN running VMware Essentials Plus Kit.

The host servers I am looking at are either:

HP DL360 G8 2x Intel(r) Xeon(r) E5-2640 (6 core, 2.50 GHz, 15MB, 95W) $5356 each

HP DL360 G8 2x Intel(r) Xeon(r) E5-2690 (8 core, 2.90 GHz, 20MB, 135W) $10,061 
each

I currently have 8 physical servers (Win2003, E2003, Citrix 4.0) that we will 
be P2V'd.

After I P2V the servers, the plan is to begin creating new Windows 2008 R2 VMs 
and migrating each server's role (2008R2 domain, Exchange 2010, and Citrix 
XenApp 6.5).

I want enough power to be able to run my existing 8 servers in a virtual 
environment and migrate them to AD2008/E2010/XenApp as well as leave some room 
for testing and growth.

2 of the vendors said 6 core is fine, another vendor is quoting 8 core 
processors.

2) The quotes I have for the "services" part of this are:

$40,000 ($12k for AD/Exch,  $8k for XenApp 20k for VMware)

$38,000 (not itemized)

$28,000 ($11k for AD/Ex, $6k  XenApp, $11k for VM)

Do these sound legit?  I have ~190 users if that helps.

I really think 28k is either too aggressive or simply not realistic.  This is 
the same vendor who quoted me (3) single processor servers, so I have to go 
back to them and tell them I want dual proc.

3) For the SAN, I have 2 options:

PS4100XV (12 600GB 15k SAS)  $23,000

NetApp FAS2240 (12 600GB 10k SAS) $22,000

I have 2 vendors pushing the PS4100XV, and the other pushing the NetApp.

>From what I have been told, I'll get better IOPS w/ the 15k drives in the 
>Equalogic.  And fuller feature set.

Any one w/ experiences w/ either of these models want to add their $.02?

This is a completely new world for me, so any help is appreciated!

.

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