In this area (Connecticut), $175 is pretty standard.

 

 

From: Brian Desmond [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 5:24 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: moving to virtual

 

So:

 

$38K @ $150 = 253 hours, or, 6 weeks of work for one resource

$38K @ $175 = 217 hours, or about 5 weeks of work for one resource

 

Both labor estimates seem a bit on the high side to me. What's the
vendor's rate? 

 

Thanks,

Brian Desmond

[email protected]

 

w - 312.625.1438 | c   - 312.731.3132

 

From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 3:52 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: moving to virtual

 

Here is the SOW (for $38k)

 

* Hold a kickoff meeting (one hour; online; 2 resources)

* Review and assess Exchange Environment

* Confirm Active Directory readiness

* Create Discovery documentation (approx.. 4 pages)

* Prepare the Exchange 2010 design

* Provide recommendations for network planning, coexistence planning,
and policy planning

* Provide recommendations for auxiliary pieces of the architecture, such
as faxing and mobile devices

* Install and configure 3 VM hosts running VMWare vSphere 5

* Install Server 2008 R2 on physical server for Domain Controller
functionality

* Build 6 new Virtual Machines

* Install Server 2008 R2 on new VM's

* Update firmware on Dell Equallogic SAN

* Create Volumes and connect vSphere hosts to volumes

* Upgrade AD to 2008 R2 forest and domain levels

* Install and Configure AD 2008 R2 on one VM

* Install vCenter Server and configure HA on one VM

* Install Server 2008 R2 on three VM's for Citrix XenApp

* Install Citrix XenApp on three VM's

* Install up to 4 applications

* Publish up to 4 Applications

* Procure and install 1 UCC Certificate for the Exchange 2010
environment

* Implement the necessary prerequisites for Exchange 2010 installation

* Perform pre-implementation configuration of Exchange 2010 environment

* Storage setup for new environment (up to 2 Mail Databases)

* CAS/HT/MB Role Installation for 1 Multi-role server

* Modify Exchange 2003 to allow proxying from 2010

* Functionality testing

* Provide implementation issue remediation (up to 4 hours)

* Provide one 2-hour training session to CLIENT Exchange Admin for
MB/Public Folder migration

* Provide migration issue remediation (up to 2 hours)

* Physical to Virtual (P2V) existing servers in environment

* Retire the Exchange 2003 environment

* Retire 2003 Domain controllers (power down)

* Provide knowledge transfer to CLIENT Exchange/VM Admin (up to 4 hours)

* Provide Post-Implementation Support (up to 8 hours)

* Configure backups for all new machines

* Install anti-virus on all new VM's

* Provide As-Built Documentation of the environment (up to 4 pages)

* Planned onsite visit(s): 1

 

 

 

From: Brian Desmond [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 4:23 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: moving to virtual

 

I can't comment on the AD/Exchange services costs without knowing what's
in the scope of work.

 

As to the storage, the NetApp frame is going to offer you
*substantially* more functionality than the competing solution, IMO. I'd
strongly lean towards NetApp's offering especially looking at it as a
long term investment. 

 

Thanks,

Brian Desmond

[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 

 

w - 312.625.1438 | c   - 312.731.3132

 

From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]> ] 
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 2:36 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: moving to virtual

 

Greetings,

Getting  very close to moving into the VM world, and have a couple of
questions...

1) I am trying to figure out if I should go with 8 core or 6 core
processors in my 3 hosts for my upcoming VMware environment.

The price is about double.  And I'm not sure I need 8 cores.

The layout that has been quoted is as follows:

3 hosts connected to a PS4100XV SAN running VMware Essentials Plus Kit.

The host servers I am looking at are either:

HP DL360 G8 2x Intel(r) Xeon(r) E5-2640 (6 core, 2.50 GHz, 15MB, 95W)
$5356 each

HP DL360 G8 2x Intel(r) Xeon(r) E5-2690 (8 core, 2.90 GHz, 20MB, 135W)
$10,061 each

I currently have 8 physical servers (Win2003, E2003, Citrix 4.0) that we
will be P2V'd.

After I P2V the servers, the plan is to begin creating new Windows 2008
R2 VMs and migrating each server's role (2008R2 domain, Exchange 2010,
and Citrix XenApp 6.5).

I want enough power to be able to run my existing 8 servers in a virtual
environment and migrate them to AD2008/E2010/XenApp as well as leave
some room for testing and growth.

2 of the vendors said 6 core is fine, another vendor is quoting 8 core
processors.

2) The quotes I have for the "services" part of this are:

$40,000 ($12k for AD/Exch,  $8k for XenApp 20k for VMware)

$38,000 (not itemized)

$28,000 ($11k for AD/Ex, $6k  XenApp, $11k for VM)

Do these sound legit?  I have ~190 users if that helps.

I really think 28k is either too aggressive or simply not realistic.
This is the same vendor who quoted me (3) single processor servers, so I
have to go back to them and tell them I want dual proc.

3) For the SAN, I have 2 options:

PS4100XV (12 600GB 15k SAS)  $23,000

NetApp FAS2240 (12 600GB 10k SAS) $22,000

I have 2 vendors pushing the PS4100XV, and the other pushing the NetApp.

>From what I have been told, I'll get better IOPS w/ the 15k drives in
the Equalogic.  And fuller feature set.

Any one w/ experiences w/ either of these models want to add their $.02?

This is a completely new world for me, so any help is appreciated!


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