>From your description I thought it was a mess. Calling it backwards is being 
>polite. :-)

Yes, the new server is powerful enough. I was afraid based on the other 
machines it had like 4 or 8 gig for memory. That's was one beefy box to run SBS 
2011 Essentials. They must have had ideas for that box.

If you decide to go the swing migration path and by a kit, help is usually 
close by with either a call to Jeff or a question to the forum group. It's not 
hard to do, it just takes time and patience. And hope like heck you don't run 
into any issues.

As for the PSTs, what is the current size of the Exchange 2003 database? With 
Exchange 2003 SP2 you could raise the database limit to 75 GB. With a few users 
in the 20-25 GB size, what does everyone else have? Are you sure the other 
Exchange boxes aren't being used? Ouch!

As for the issues of exporting the PSTs those large ones will take time to both 
export and then import. For the most part my experience has been good but there 
have been issues exporting large PSTs. Mostly from the computer breaking or 
having issues. What versions of Outlook are they using? Newer versions will be 
better than Outlook 2003. And I'm sure they need everything that is stored in 
them also.

>From this extra information I'm more inclined to start fresh. Visiting each of 
>the workstations will be a pain but it also gives you a chance to gauge each 
>system's performance and make recommendations. I'll bet each one could use 
>some serious cleaning.

Another thought, depending on how much time you want to use towards discovery, 
would be to use the Microsoft Assessment and Planning Toolkit to pull an 
inventory of the desktops. This could give you a rough idea of what is on each 
workstation. 

Another idea would be to keep the "best" older leftover server and use it as 
another DC and extra storage or backup. But from the descriptions, maybe not. 
Do you have a boat. It sounds like you have a choice if you need a new anchor.

Art

-----Original Message-----
From: James R. Costa, MCP [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2012 2:20 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Strange SBS2011 migration path, looking for some input

A mess, indeed.  Thanks for your input Art.  I must have been thinking of 
SBS2011 Standard when I wrote about not using newer Exchange... was kinda 
braindead yesterday.

You would think Essentials was installed to replace a DC... but it was just 
added to the mess.  While it's a great idea to virtualize those old servers, 
it's pretty pointless in this case.  They shouldn't be there in the first 
place.  There were a total of 6 DCs in the 8 servers for about 23 users, 
Exchange installed on 3 boxes, only really running on the one VM though.  
Basically anything they are doing can be combined on one server.  Their whole 
system is pretty backwards right now.

I'm thinking SBS 2011 Standard with appropriate user CALs is still the right 
choice for them.  The box it would be installed on is a Dell Poweredge R710, 2x 
6-core Xeon w/ HT, 32GB RAM, 6x 2TB/7.2k in RAID5.  SO it definitely has the 
horsepower and capacity they need.  All of the other servers are running 
Win2K/Win2K3 on effectively junk hardware... OLD Compaq ML530 Pentium III Xeon 
(160lbs.), Pentium Dual-Core whitebox, etc.

There is one older-gen Intel whitebox server that could be used for a swing 
migration.  Although I'm still up in the air about which path to take.  I could 
do a swing to that other box, although I have never done one before, and at the 
same time, I'm inclined to start fresh and visit every workstation to 
disjoin/rejoin to make sure everything is configured properly.  I will check on 
the public folders.  Exporting their mail to PST will be interesting too, as 
some of the users have mailboxes that are 20-25GB in size.  Would you foresee 
any issues in exporting mailboxes of that size?

Thanks again for your input!!

James

>>>
What a mess. 

SBS 2011 Essentials will not support Exchange. That's why he has it installed 
on another box. It looks like Essentials was installed to replace an old DC and 
try to update the network. But that's in the past now. 

I would plan to install a new version of SBS 2011 Premium based on the number 
of servers. You get the rights for 2 physical boxes (and SQL) and can 
virtualize some of the other servers on the second box. 

What are the specs for the latest box you plan on installing SBS 2011 Standard 
on? 
What are the other 7 servers doing and can they be combined and virtualized? 
You will need SBS 2011 Standard and the appropriate number of CALs. None of the 
CALs they have now are valid for SBS 2011. 

David is right in that you can do a "swing migration". You will need another 
server for this. Will one of the others work temporarily? 

Is the rest of the network, AD, users, etc. OK or do they look iffy also? If so 
I would be inclined to start from scratch and build it so you know exactly what 
you have. I know it's a pain but you could export the PST files. That should 
cover most of their Exchange data. Unless they are using Public Folders. 

If the client is growing, this might be a good time to start over with a good 
base and review existing policies and build it to match the client's needs and 
expectations. 

Art
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