Don't take what I said out of context: "Microsoft loses money on the Exchange MCM classes" and "The fee is to ensure that only serious people apply plus to cover the cost of the labs, meeting rooms, and presentation materials."
Neither of the sentences stands alone. Your standard MCT does not teach the MCM certification classes. The engineers who designed and coded the products teach the courses. Senior Product Group Managers who are responsible for major areas of products teach the courses. You get education that is not available at any price from any other place. And it is only available a few times a year because those people have "real jobs" - creating and supporting products. I once had the pleasure of spending two days in Redmond taking classes on Exchange database theory. The first day of the course was taught by one of the ESE database coders. The second day of the course was taught by the guy primarily responsible for the Exchange database schema (which sits on top of ESE). Those two days could not have been taught by an MCT. The knowledge that was shared was invaluable. The dollars were irrelevant. But if there had been people in the course that didn't even understand B+ trees and how balancing is accomplished - it would've pulled the entire class down. If there had been people who didn't understand MPIO and how it can effect clustering - it would've pulled the entire class down. Again, just my opinion. :) From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 10:57 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: MCM certification Not sure I agree with that. "The fee is to ensure that only serious people apply" If you kept everything else the same, all requirements,tests, labs, etc.... and lowered the cost to say $5K. What do you think would happen? Do you really think there would be a huge glut of "paper" MCSM/MCM's out there that would be able to pass the exams? I highly doubt that. I think you would just be opening it up to people who are qualified, but can't currently afford the cost. Not that I'm in that category. Wish I was. Again just my opinion. Christopher Bodnar Enterprise Architect I, Corporate Office of Technology:Enterprise Architecture and Engineering Services Tel 610-807-6459 3900 Burgess Place, Bethlehem, PA 18017 [email protected]<mailto:> [cid:[email protected]] The Guardian Life Insurance Company of America www.guardianlife.com<http://www.guardianlife.com/> From: "Michael B. Smith" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> To: "NT System Admin Issues" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Date: 02/13/2013 10:47 AM Subject: RE: OT: MCM certification ________________________________ Microsoft loses money on the Exchange MCM classes. I suspect they do for all of the MCM tracks. The fee is to ensure that only serious people apply plus to cover the cost of the labs, meeting rooms, and presentation materials. Big companies need people with big experience. I don't pass the screening criteria for Exchange MCM (I've never done a 750K seat deployment of Exchange). But they've told me they'd let me in as a favor. :) But I can't afford the class, plus the travel, plus the loss of revenue (income) for 3 weeks. I wish I could. -----Original Message----- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 10:38 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: MCM certification On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 7:20 AM, Christopher Bodnar <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > Was reading this yesterday: > > http://blogs.metcorpconsulting.com/tech/?p=1101 > > And got to thinking about this again. It still bothers me that the road to > this certification is artificially blocked by monetary constraints. I think > the certification is difficult enough without adding that as a factor to > reduce the overall numbers just to increase the "value" of this > certification. Maybe I'm in the minority, but I know I wont' even consider > this certification, just based on the cost. Not that I think I would pass, or > that I even think I'm ready for something like this. I don't work for MS and > I'm not a consultant. Which from what I've seen are the 2 primary groups of > people seeking this certification. My employer would never consider this > strictly based on cost and ROI. > > Anyone else of the same opinion? Or am I way off base here? > > Chris Uh - do you think it's free to administer these tests? 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