Maybe you know a different group of 'most people' then I do. While I like your definition and wish it was more in use by 'most people' the only people that count are the ones that cut checks near you.
I am all for agreed upon definitions and I have seen movement among some marketers to infer this feature set, there are a wealth of other service organizations and other companies that sell their variation labeled as 'cloud' and we're not going to settle on a given definition for general usage quite yet as we don't control their marketers. Once you get into a 'purchase' or 'contract' phase of a given discussion then of course you can insist on adhering to a more specific definition. AS long as the technical specifics are defined in a given discussion with a vender, support organization, etc. then the 'marketing words' don't really matter. i.e. I could argue over the definition of the word 'cloud services' for an hour or I could use the hour meeting to ensure that the specifics of someone's offering are spelled out and appropriate to my organizations needs. Steven Peck http://www.blkmtn.org On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 2:17 PM, Ken Schaefer <[email protected]> wrote: > No – I disagree. Whilst, in IT, there is much marketing BS from vendors > wanting to sell you stuff, the core cloud definitions are pretty well > settled IMHO. Most people use a variation of what NIST has published:**** > > ** ** > > *Features:* > > **· **Perception of infinite capacity, with rapid elasticity (as > far as the user is concerned the capacity is available on-demand)** > > **· **Ability for user to perform self-service > provisioning/deprovisioning (no need to involve the vendor)** > > **· **Broad network access: access via widely accepted protocols > (like web services) thus accessible on a variety of devices and thick/thin > client models** > > **· **Resource Pooling: multiple end users may be mixed together > and spread across the available physical resources and fault domains** > > **· **Measured service: automated monitoring and capacity > management (e.g. dynamic provisioning and resource usage levelling). Also > provides transparent resource (and thus cost) accounting to the end user** > > * * > > *Types:* > > **· **IAAS (you get some compute, storage etc.), **** > > **· **PAAS (you get a platform, like SQL Server) or **** > > **· **SAAS (you get to use an application e.g. like SalesForce)*** > * > > ** ** > > *Location:* > > **· **Private (your DC), **** > > **· **Public (someone else’s DC) and **** > > **· **Hybrid (in your DC, but you can expand or burst into > someone else’s)**** > > * * > > Just uploading some data to a DC is *definitely not cloud.* Most > outsourcers and vendors struggle with implementing all the features unless > they are building from the ground up. To build a pure cloud (and I’ve > worked on a couple of large private ones) involves a lot of work to build > the systems that automate everything, because there’s a lot of stuff > (provisioning, incident management) that’s usually made up “on the fly” in > most places. And you can’t automate rules that don’t exist.** > > ** ** > > Cheers**** > > Ken**** > > ** ** > > *From:* Webster [mailto:[email protected]] > *Sent:* Friday, 15 February 2013 4:41 AM > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* RE: Backup to cloud?**** > > ** ** > > “The Cloud” is nothing more than someone else’s data center. So yes, that > is The Cloud.**** > > ** ** > > Thanks**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > Webster**** > > ** ** > > *From:* Guyer, Don [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] > *Subject:* RE: Backup to cloud?**** > > ** ** > > This is where the term “the cloud” becomes murky, in my opinion. If I’m > sending data over a private circuit to a 3rd party data center, is that > really “the cloud”?**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > --- > To manage subscriptions click here: > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > or send an email to [email protected] > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to [email protected] with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
