Try a degree in Chemistry with a minor in Physics and work as in Health Physics for 7 years then move into IT work that is a challenge I would not want to repeat.
Jon On Feb 7, 2008 10:38 AM, Steve Ens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > My undergrad is in Theology...LOL. It all helps. I can understand why > God brings a server down, and then pray better to get it back up. > > On Thu, Feb 7, 2008 at 7:54 AM, Andy Shook < > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > I'll one up you, Z. My undergrad is in music (Percussion). > > > > > > > > Shook > > > > http://www.linkedin.com/in/andyshook > > ------------------------------ > > > > *From:* Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > *Sent:* Thursday, February 07, 2008 8:51 AM > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > > *Subject:* RE: Certs + Experience + which degree? > > > > > > > > > > > > Good view of it. > > > > > > > > Looking at Masters in IT/Information Science also, but borrowing like > > 40-60K at 8% just to get through the course, and taking Graduate Placement > > Exams ( MCAT? MCAP) doesn't thrill me either. I got enough real-world > > experience, to breeze through possibly ¼ to ½ the cirrcumlum for the MSIT > > degree ( CISSP at most accredited colleges will count for about 12-15 > > credits towards the Masters, which helps get the degree quicker) > > > > > > > > True: Running the certification rat-race does get boring after a while, > > but in IT its basically the Icing on the cake in my eyes, doing the jobs, > > getting the experience is really what it comes down to. And hell my > > undergrad was in Mechnical Engineering, wish they had the IT Degrees back in > > my day in college, all they had was CIS ( Coding, which I loathe) > > > > > > > > Z > > > > > > > > Edward E. Ziots > > > > Netwok Engineer > > > > Lifespan Organization > > > > MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA > > > > Phone: 401-639-3505 > > > > -----Original Message----- > > *From:* John Hornbuckle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > *Sent:* Thursday, February 07, 2008 8:35 AM > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > > *Subject:* RE: Certs + Experience + which degree? > > > > > > > > > > > > I've got a young woman (early 20's) working for me as a PC technician. > > The position requires A+ and Network+ certifications, which she has. She was > > commenting earlier this week that very little of what she learned in the > > certification process has helped her out in the field. The things you come > > across in the real world just can't be duplicate in books. That's not to say > > that certification is useless, but we all know that certs alone aren't worth > > much. > > > > > > > > I've got over 10 years of experience, and the only certs I have are A+, > > Net+, and I-Net+. When I found myself with time to study, I didn't go for > > more certs—I finished my Bachelor's degree (I had dropped out of college as > > a junior, having already earned my AA). The next step for me is a Master's; > > I'd rather spend my time and energy on that than certs. Certs have a limited > > shelf life, but degrees are forever. > > > > > > > > After the Master's, I may look into additional certs. But that will be a > > few years. > > > > > > > > > > > > John Hornbuckle > > > > MIS Department > > > > Taylor County School District > > > > 318 North Clark Street > > > > Perry, FL 32347 > > > > > > > > www.taylor.k12.fl.us > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *From:* Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > *Sent:* Thursday, February 07, 2008 7:51 AM > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > > *Subject:* RE: Certs + Experience + which degree? > > > > > > > > > > > > I can see where you are coming from, I find myself at this familiar > > cross-roads. It seems that re-certification is necessary evil now, but > > probably going the SSCP/CISSP ISC2 route because its vendor/neutral and it > > really peaks my interest, and never gets boring. Plus it doesn't pigeonhole > > me into supporting one OS over another or one technology over another. > > > > > > > > But honestly, experience is the best teacher. How many times I have sat > > in a class, and you knew the professor didn't have much real-world > > experience, and basically was teaching you the theory of how things are > > supposed to go, which we both know doesn't always work out to what it really > > does, when you get down to it. > > > > > > > > Z > > > > > > > > Edward E. Ziots > > > > Netwok Engineer > > > > Lifespan Organization > > > > MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA > > > > Phone: 401-639-3505 > > > > -----Original Message----- > > *From:* MarvinC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > *Sent:* Wednesday, February 06, 2008 8:41 PM > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > > *Subject:* Re: Certs + Experience + which degree? > > > > > > > > > > > > The time to study + the time to commit to hands on related work that may > > intefere with studying for a masters/phd.. > > > > I've thought about pursuing one or the other but the current work load > > just allow time. Of course there's also part-time and/or online schooling as > > an option. I'd say it could depend on just how much you're looking to get > > out of the classes and whether you function better in a classroom or working > > from home. Having the 2000/2003 MS certs I'm now having to consider tackling > > the 2008 certs or make the jump to another industry platform like Cisco. > > Talk about wanting to pull the covers back over my head! > > > > At this stage in my life I've come to the conclusion that I won't become > > rich or wealthy working in this field unless I stumble across a nice patent. > > I believe in the "glass ceiling" and that you can max out if you're not > > constantly working to stay educated in some capacity. My fear is the same I > > had when I was in college and that was that my real world experiences were > > educating me a lot better than the classroom subject matter. So I figure to > > work towards building some type of residual income, start another venture, > > build, start etc. At that point I'd be paying for classes or subject matter > > that's gonna help to keep the cycle going. If I make it back to school it'll > > be because I'd have the time and flexibility. (nothing like dreaming) > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2/6/08, *Jim Majorowicz* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > It depends on where you see yourself in 5 to 10 years. Personally, I'd > > go for the MBA if I had the time, even though I'd never use it. > > > > > > > > *From:* Phil Guevara [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > *Sent:* Wednesday, February 06, 2008 2:45 PM > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > > *Subject:* OT: Certs + Experience + which degree? > > > > > > > > > > > > I was wondering what everyone's opinion is on this. > > > > > > > > Let's say you have your MCSE cert or other industry standard cert and > > over 5 years solid experience, but no degree. > > > > > > > > Which degree would be best to compliment this? > > > > > > > > CIS degree, Computer Science Degree, Business Degree, other? > > > > > > > > I noticed the CS program deals more with programming and not really the > > stuff a systems administrator would do. 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