God in Heaven, what did I start here???? Signed, Tom, (a "non-real" Exchange Admin going on as long as Don, and I have had to use ESEutil and Isinteg several times in Exchange 5.5) ________________________________
From: Steve Ens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 4:08 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Response from GoExchange, Lucid8 Support Oh I wish I could be a conslutant too... On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 2:58 PM, Don Ely <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Your product is useless to "real" Exchange admins. Your product offers no intrinsic value and at best your product increases the risk of making things worse... Bottom line, your product holds no value. I know enough about your product to make such a broad statement. Given that, maybe you can explain where I am wrong in my assumption about your product. Having managed Exchange environments since the Exchange 4.0 days I'm pretty sure I have a strong handle on the Jet Database, Eseutil, and Isinteg. I also have a keen handle on when to use these utilities and when I shouldn't. I can also say that in all of my years of managing Exchange and we're going on 13 years, I have never run Eseutil or Isinteg on servers I had to manage. I can count on both hands the number of times I have to use either utility as a conslutant. All of that said, where would I find value in your product. Seriously, I would really like to know the answer to this question and without use case scenario's, etc... I would like clear, techincal reasons to implement such a product. On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 12:12 PM, Dane Cue <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: WL, I read your post and; 1. Your snide comments really hold no value. Q: I have to ask myself and so should others why anyone would make such a silly suggestion for an Anti-Product that they in fact know nothing about? A: If you dont hae an answer, make an off color comment, wave your arms and jump up and down. Ooh look at me everyone, the world is flat i tell you flat.... 2. Regarding your statement about Microsofts, you seem to be arguing against yourself, i.e. no one from MS would ever say this and if they did its a rogue party with an MS email? So even if I were at liberty to qoute MS sources you would more then likely call the person an idiot or something else degrading. Also you fail to miss the major point of our rather detailed answer: Here is the orginal text: A final note. We have heard from Microsoft themselves which have stated on various occasions (to us and other customers) * "With 2K7 you don't need GOexchange anymore like you did with 2K3" * Rather humorously we also previously heard "With 2K3 you don't need GOexchange anymore like you did with 2K" in other words with every generation of Exchange it's admitted we provided a valuable service for the older product but we were no longer "Needed" for the newest product, that is until the next generation is released that solves all the problems that didn't exist. END.. Now MS is a great company that makes some incredible products, but anyone that has been in the industry for any length of time knows the scopre here and its not just about Exchange i.e. Buy Version 1.x its awesome and has no issues Buy Version 2.x its awesome and solves issues that 1.x had and is solid as a rock, requires no xxx or yyy like 1.x Buy version 3.x its awesome, solves issues with 2.x and is solid as a rock, requires no xxx or yyy or zzz like 2.x So the latest version is always great and solves real problems that the old version had and therefore you no longer need to do whatever you used to do, until the new version comes out and then the process is repeated. In relation to GOexchange, MS and others made these statements when Exchange 2000 came out, then 2003 and now 2007 and each and every time its been false, i.e. GOexchange continues to add value to clients around the world. Bottom line here is that until MS move's away from JET, GOexchange will continue to provide benefit to all that utilize it. I hope this helps and I am happy to converse with you openly on this forum as long as you can behave like a professional and deliver thoughtful and informed responses. DC ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm> ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm> ~
