Oh I wish I could be a conslutant too...

On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 2:58 PM, Don Ely <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Your product is useless to "real" Exchange admins.  Your product offers no
> intrinsic value and at best your product increases the risk of making things
> worse...
>
> Bottom line, your product holds no value.
>
> I know enough about your product to make such a broad statement.
>
> Given that, maybe you can explain where I am wrong in my assumption about
> your product.  Having managed Exchange environments since the Exchange 
> 4.0days I'm pretty sure I have a strong handle on the Jet Database, Eseutil,
> and Isinteg.  I also have a keen handle on when to use these utilities and
> when I shouldn't.  I can also say that in all of my years of managing
> Exchange and we're going on 13 years, I have never run Eseutil or Isinteg on
> servers I had to manage.  I can count on both hands the number of times I
> have to use either utility as a conslutant.
>
> All of that said, where would I find value in your product.  Seriously, I
> would really like to know the answer to this question and without use case
> scenario's, etc...  I would like clear, techincal reasons to implement such
> a product.
>
> On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 12:12 PM, Dane Cue <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > WL, I read your post and;
> >
> > 1. Your snide comments really hold no value.
> >
> > Q: I have to ask myself and so should others why anyone would make such
> > a silly suggestion for an Anti-Product that they in fact know nothing about?
> >
> > A: If you dont hae an answer, make an off color comment, wave your arms
> > and jump up and down.  Ooh look at me everyone, the world is flat i tell you
> > flat....
> >
> >
> > 2. Regarding your statement about Microsofts, you seem to be arguing
> > against yourself, i.e. no one from MS would ever say this and if they
> > did its a rogue party with an MS email?  So even if I were at liberty to
> > qoute MS sources you would more then likely call the person an idiot or
> > something else degrading.
> >
> > Also you fail to miss the major point of our rather detailed answer:
> >  Here is the orginal text:
> >
> > A final note. We have heard from Microsoft themselves which have stated
> > on various occasions (to us and other customers)
> > •       "With 2K7 you don't need GOexchange anymore like you did with
> > 2K3"
> > •       Rather humorously we also previously heard "With 2K3 you don't
> > need GOexchange anymore like you did with 2K"
> > in other words with every generation of Exchange it's admitted we
> > provided a valuable service for the older product but we were no longer
> > "Needed" for the newest product, that is until the next generation is
> > released that solves all the problems that didn't exist.
> >
> > END..
> >
> > Now MS is a great company that makes some incredible products, but
> > anyone that has been in the industry for any length of time knows the scopre
> > here and its not just about Exchange i.e.
> >
> > Buy Version 1.x its awesome and has no issues
> >
> > Buy Version 2.x its awesome and solves issues that 1.x had and is solid
> > as a rock, requires no xxx or yyy like 1.x
> >
> > Buy version 3.x its awesome, solves issues with 2.x and is solid as a
> > rock, requires no xxx or yyy or zzz like 2.x
> >
> > So the latest version is always great and solves real problems that the
> > old version had and therefore you no longer need to do whatever you used to
> > do, until the new version comes out and then the process is repeated.
> >
> > In relation to GOexchange, MS and others made these statements when
> > Exchange 2000 came out, then 2003 and now 2007 and each and every time its
> > been false, i.e. GOexchange continues to add value to clients around the
> > world.  Bottom line here is that until MS move's away from JET, GOexchange
> > will continue to provide benefit to all that utilize it.
> >
> > I hope this helps and I am happy to converse with you openly on this
> > forum as long as you can behave like a professional and deliver thoughtful
> > and informed responses.
> >
> > DC
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> >
>
>

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