Clustering isn't that complicated, working on a few SQL 2005 clusters
now, and I have clustered SQL 2000, Exchange 2003, File services, etc
etc. 

Next trick I really would like to do with Windows Clustering is
Geographical Clustering for site-to-site HA. 

Z

Edward E. Ziots
Network Engineer
Lifespan Organization
MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA
Phone: 401-639-3505

-----Original Message-----
From: Steven Peck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 1:53 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Cluster, virtual servers, or traditional?

Clustering also complicates your life but is 'neat' to have on the
resume :)

Whether it is a business requirement or not really depends on your
business needs and the applications you are running.

Steven

On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 7:42 AM, Russ Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> This is something we did last year and are still implementing. We
ended up
> getting an iSCSI SAN and I currently have a two node cluster that is
also
> hosting MS virtual servers with all the data sitting in the SAN.  This
> worked for us as we also needed to replace quite a bit of our hardware
and I
> was able to shut down quite a few older servers and move them onto two
new
> clustered servers.
>
> Clustering is included with the Enterprise and above version of server
> 2003/2008, but you would need to purchase two server licenses.
Clustering
> requires some type of shared storage.
>
>
> Russ Clark
>
>  ________________________________
>
>
> From: Mike Semon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 8:31 AM
>
>  To: NT System Admin Issues
>  Subject: RE: Cluster, virtual servers, or traditional?
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> You might look at iSCSI or NAS solutions for storage if you do not
need the
> performance of a Fibre Channel SAN. There is a big cost saving and in
the
> right environment they work great. Virtualization such as VMware will
be of
> benefit if you want to consolidate servers. If you have a bunch of
servers
> that run at 10-15 % utilization then it makes sense to virtualize
them. Also
> easy to deploy new servers from templates which saves lots of time. If
you
> have small number of servers which have heavy utilization then stick
with
> traditional hardware.
>
> Mike
>
>  ________________________________
>
>
> From: Tom Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 8:05 AM
>  To: NT System Admin Issues
>  Subject: Cluster, virtual servers, or traditional?
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> Hi Folks:
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>
>
> Over the next year I'll be replacing/moving around most of my servers
here
> at HQ.  Currently I have "traditional" hardware servers.  I'm
wondering at
> what point to I need to move, if at all, to clustering/SAN/virtual
servers.
> At my regional sites (all 50 staff or less) the model will remain a
> traditional server hardware.  However here at HQ (6 buildings) I am
not so
> sure.  I have about 400 staff members here using several servers for
e-mail
> and file and print, as well as the typical variety of utility, web,
and so
> on servers.  None of the servers consume a huge amount of disk space
for
> files or for e-mail (fairly stringent disk space quotas for e-mail).
>
>
>
>
>
> Suggestions?  I'll be moving to Windows 2008, and I thought I read
that you
> can cluster 2 servers without additional licenses.  I'm not sure about
SANs,
> since that my be overkill here, and I haven't done anything with
> virtualization yet (other than desktop).
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>
> Reliability is important, but so is cost.  Being a non-profit, I don't
have
> lots of funds for extra hardware unless I can justify it.
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> Comments and suggestions appreciated.
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> Tom Miller
>  Engineer, Information Technology
>  Hampton-Newport News Community Services Board
>  757-788-0528
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