On Friday I saw an interesting presentation on VMWare, EMC hardware
and Avamar backups.

The most interesting part was the Avamar - they claimes some pretty
wild numbers for de-duplication and backups, using hashing,
block-level backups and such. They're apparently a recent acquisition
for EMC. I'll be looking at them to supplement or replace our Tivoli
installation - probably coupled with an offsite presence.

Kurt

On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 5:41 PM, Michael B. Smith
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Welcome to DPM VSS block-level backups...
>
>  When did all this S3/cheap-remote-storage stuff come about? Sheesh. I've
>  obviously been hiding under a rock. I see some wonderful applications here I
>  need to think through...
>
>  Regards,
>
>  Michael B. Smith
>  MCSE/Exchange MVP
>  http://TheEssentialExchange.com
>
>
>  -----Original Message-----
>  From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2008 9:08 PM
>  To: NT System Admin Issues
>
>
> Subject: RE: online backups
>
>  I like this part:
>  What are block-level file updates?
>  When updating existing files, Amazon S3 requires you to upload the entire
>  file rather than just the changed portions.
>  For large files, this can mean gigabytes of uploads for only a few kilobytes
>  of changes. Uploading the unchanged data takes time and also costs money, as
>  Amazon charges for each gigabyte uploaded.
>  The block-level update feature of Jungle Disk Plus allows you to upload only
>  the changed portions of large files, saving time and bandwidth.
>  Jungle Disk Plus uses a technique similar to rsync to detect the changed
>  parts of a file and upload only those changed parts to the Jungle Disk Plus
>  server, which then combines the changes with the original file to update
>  your file.
>  Block-level updates are important for backing up large files such as Outlook
>  PST files, databases, or other files that change regularly by only by a
>  small amount relative to the overall size of the file.
>
>
>  -----Original Message-----
>  From: Angus Scott-Fleming [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2008 5:38 PM
>  To: NT System Admin Issues
>  Subject: Re: online backups
>
>  On 30 Mar 2008 at 14:18, Micheal Espinola Jr  wrote:
>
>  > Amazon's S3 service.
>
>  Concur.  I'm using them now with JungleDisk ($20 1-time cost for unlimited
>  PCs
>  on each account).
>
>  ------- Included Stuff Follows -------
>   Amazon.com: Amazon S3, Amazon Simple Storage Service,
>   Unlimited Online Storage: Amazon Web Services
>   http://www.amazon.com/gp/browse.html?node=16427261
>  ...
>   United States
>
>       Storage
>       $0.15 per GB-Month of storage used
>
>       Data Transfer
>       $0.10 per GB - all data transfer in
>       $0.18 per GB - first 10 TB / month data transfer out
>       $0.16 per GB - next 40 TB / month data transfer out
>       $0.13 per GB - data transfer out / month over 50 TB
>
>       Requests
>       $0.01 per 1,000 PUT or LIST requests
>       $0.01 per 10,000 GET and all other requests*
>       * No charge for delete requests
>  --------- Included Stuff Ends ---------
>
>  Europe is slightly more expensive.
>
>  HTH
>
>  --
>  Angus Scott-Fleming
>  GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona
>  1-520-290-5038
>  +-----------------------------------+
>
>
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