So do other, standards-respecting, applications.

On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 5:23 AM, Rod Trent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sorry, that's just the wrong way to think about it.  Sharepoint fills a
> business requirement.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 1:47 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Firefox 3.0 Download Day
>
> I think it would instead be a reason why SharePoint would be banned
> from your network...
>
> After all, any vendor whose only way of making a buck is to get
> customers locked in by destroying compatibility with standards
> shouldn't be encouraged, now should it?
>
> Heh.
>
> On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 9:23 PM, Don Ely <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> SharePoint is most certainly not FF friendly which is why FF will be
> banned
>> from our network...
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 12:36 PM, Ben Schorr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>>>
>>> Do all sites work in it?  That's been my problem with Firefox
>>> traditionally - I too often had to use IE to use sites I needed to use.
> So
>>> I just figured the heck with it - if I'm in IE half the time anyhow it
>>> doesn't make sense for me to maintain a separate browser.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Ben M. Schorr
>>> Chief Executive Officer
>>> ______________________________________________
>>> Roland Schorr & Tower
>>> www.rolandschorr.com
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 9:31 AM
>>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>>> Subject: Re: Firefox 3.0 Download Day
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Firefox 3.0 downloaded & installed on my laptop.  Seems to be much much
>>> faster loading, and so far not hogging system resources.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 2:14 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Yeah, but is that?  Like $5?
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>
>>> From: Rod Trent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 3:09 PM
>>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>>> Subject: RE: Firefox 3.0 Download Day
>>>
>>> Doh!
>>>
>>> I guess we were grandfathered, then.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Chris Blair [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 3:04 PM
>>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>>> Subject: RE: Firefox 3.0 Download Day
>>>
>>> The Wii Internet Channel is now 500 points. It was free in the 'beta'
>>> phase, but they started charging for it after it went final.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.nintendo.com/wii/channels
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Rod Trent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 1:59 PM
>>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>>> Subject: RE: Firefox 3.0 Download Day
>>>
>>> Yep...just add the Internet channel.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 2:53 PM
>>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>>> Subject: RE: Firefox 3.0 Download Day
>>>
>>> LOL
>>> I thought you had to pay to get a browser on the Wii?
>>> Do you mean you just add the internet channel?
>>> I will have to check on this tonight.
>>> Surfing the net on a 55" LCD will be..um..interesting.
>>> LOL
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>
>>> From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 2:50 PM
>>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>>> Subject: Re: Firefox 3.0 Download Day
>>>
>>> fee for the wii? brb, gotta go pee...
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 2:43 PM, David Mazzaccaro
>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> > No fee?
>>> >
>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>> > From: Rod Trent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> > Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 2:22 PM
>>> > To: NT System Admin Issues
>>> > Subject: RE: Firefox 3.0 Download Day
>>> >
>>> > Yep. The Wii "Internet Channel" is awesome.  You use the Wii wireless
>>> > controllers to surf the web.  Opera installs when you choose to load
>>> the
>>> > Internet channel.
>>> >
>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>> > From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> > Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 2:14 PM
>>> > To: NT System Admin Issues
>>> > Subject: RE: Firefox 3.0 Download Day
>>> >
>>> > "Opera on the Wii"
>>> > - Is this free?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>> > From: Rod Trent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> > Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 2:10 PM
>>> > To: NT System Admin Issues
>>> > Subject: RE: Firefox 3.0 Download Day
>>> >
>>> > Mozilla.com is down.
>>> >
>>> > BTW: If you want Firefox 3.0 now, here's the URL:
>>> >
>>> > http://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-3.0&os=win&lang=en-GB
>>> >
>>> > Remember, though, while you can get it now using this URL, it won't
>>> > count
>>> > toward the World record unless you wait a while and download from the
>>> > primary download page.
>>> >
>>> > Our kids surf the Internet at home using Opera on the Wii.
>>> >
>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>> > From: Christopher J. Bosak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> > Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 2:03 PM
>>> > To: NT System Admin Issues
>>> > Subject: RE: Firefox 3.0 Download Day
>>> >
>>> > There are some of us that browse the internet at home for
>>> entertainment,
>>> > you
>>> > know.
>>> > All work and no play makes be get a job at the post office.
>>> >
>>> > Christopher J. Bosak
>>> > Vector Company
>>> > c. 847.603.4673
>>> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> >
>>> > "You need to install an RTFM Interface, due to an LBNC issue."
>>> > - B.O.F.H. (Merged 2 into 1) - Me
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>> > From: Rod Trent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> > Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 12:02 hrs
>>> > To: NT System Admin Issues
>>> > Subject: RE: Firefox 3.0 Download Day
>>> >
>>> > That could be true.  I only visit web sites that allow me to do my
>>> job.
>>> >
>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>> > From: Mike Gill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> > Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 12:32 PM
>>> > To: NT System Admin Issues
>>> > Subject: RE: Firefox 3.0 Download Day
>>> >
>>> > Well, I'm a Moz fan and do promote FF to people when the conversation
>>> is
>>> > going that way. I don't really care what people use, I just don't want
>>> > them
>>> > (i.e. most folk) to use IE. You say you've never been hi-jacked or
>>> > scripted,
>>> > and I assume you mean you're browser's never been compromised in any
>>> > way. I
>>> > guess that also means your minimalists tendencies expand into what
>>> > websites
>>> > you visit too, because there are quite a few sites out there you *just
>>> > don't
>>> > visit* using IE. FF and Opera et al are not immune, but IMO IE is the
>>> > single
>>> > biggest security hole in Windows, years running.
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Mike Gill
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >> -----Original Message-----
>>> >> From: Rod Trent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> >> Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 8:11 AM
>>> >> To: NT System Admin Issues
>>> >> Subject: RE: Firefox 3.0 Download Day
>>> >>
>>> >> YMMV, I believe, too.
>>> >>
>>> >> Personally, I've not seen the substance.  I get frustrated with
>>> >> technology
>>> >> pretty easily if it doesn't work the way I do.  And, when that
>>> happens
>>> >> it
>>> >> comes off the PC fairly quickly.  I treat my computer as something
>>> >> critical
>>> >> to my well being.  If I feel an application is just taking up space,
>>> >> instead
>>> >> of providing value to me, I don't keep it there.  I've downloaded FF
>>> > so
>>> >> many
>>> >> times, and removed it within a day of installation.
>>> >>
>>> >> As for security -- I've never been hijacked, or scripted.  No Maxthon
>>> >> here.
>>> >> Again, I'm a software minimalist.  Maxthon adds features that I'll
>>> >> never
>>> >> use.  I just want to work.
>>> >>
>>> >> I might agree with the view of FF, if it weren't for Opera.  Opera
>>> > kind
>>> >> of
>>> >> puts the whole hype versus value to rest.  Just my opinion.
>>> >>
>>> >> -----Original Message-----
>>> >> From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> >> Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 10:35 AM
>>> >> To: NT System Admin Issues
>>> >> Subject: Re: Firefox 3.0 Download Day
>>> >>
>>> >> I think the success of Firefox has gone way beyond hype at this
>>> point.
>>> >>  And, I have posted here multiple times on my comparisons of IE
>>> memory
>>> >> use vs. Firefox; the majority of those tests have been negative to
>>> IE.
>>> >>
>>> >> I wasnt looking to get into YABA, but while FF only gets better, IE
>>> >> only gets worse.  Its only saving grace in the past few years has
>>> been
>>> >> add-ons like Maxthon.
>>> >>
>>> >> Security-wise, I can point you to plenty of sites that will exploit
>>> >> the hell out of IE but cant to FF.
>>> >>
>>> >> I dont appreciate the Mac-zealot style of hype that FF users promote
>>> -
>>> >> but the hype has substance.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 10:08 AM, Rod Trent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >> > Nah, I just don't like to use things based on hype.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > I know, I know.  Hype pretty much runs the industry these days (ex.
>>> >> iPhone),
>>> >> > but following the crowd gives me a bad feeling.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Plus, I've never had much luck with Firefox, so I don't see the
>>> >> benefit.
>>> >> > It's slow, eats away at memory, etc.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Now, Opera, on the other hand.  No hype.  Great product.  That's
>>> the
>>> >> only
>>> >> > 3rd party browser I would recommend.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > -----Original Message-----
>>> >> > From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> >> > Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 9:53 AM
>>> >> > To: NT System Admin Issues
>>> >> > Subject: Re: Firefox 3.0 Download Day
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Because Rod doesn't like anyone to use anything non-Microsoft.  It
>>> >> > scares him.  ;-)
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> > On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 9:43 AM, Martin Blackstone
>>> >> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> >> >> Why? Seriously. Why?
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> -----Original Message-----
>>> >> >> From: Rod Trent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> >> >> Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 5:55 AM
>>> >> >> To: NT System Admin Issues
>>> >> >> Subject: RE: Firefox 3.0 Download Day
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Don't do it.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Like sheep to the slaughter.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> -----Original Message-----
>>> >> >> From: Peter van Houten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> >> >> Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 7:53 AM
>>> >> >> To: NT System Admin Issues
>>> >> >> Subject: Firefox 3.0 Download Day
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Today is supposed to be the official release day for Firefox 3.0
>>> > and
>>> >> >> Mozilla are trying to set a record for the number of downloads.
>>> > The
>>> >> >> Firefox home page is slightly out of date but the full 3.0
>>> download
>>> >> is
>>> >> >> here for those that are interested:
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> ftp://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/3.0
>>> >> >>
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>>>
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