Looks like I need to go check this out... On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 8:39 AM, Sherry Abercrombie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Happy happy, joy joy. FF 3.0 using IE Tabs, Sharepoint works, I can open, > edit and save documents. Sweet!! It's gotten even better, I can manage my > Nortel VPN in FF and it looks like I can admin Project Server in FF. > > Yup, I'm doing a happy dance right now!! > > On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 10:20 AM, Terry Dickson < > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Well I am not sure what you are doing with SharePoint, we have it up and >> are starting to test it. After testing we will see if and how we want >> to deploy it. I just hit it with FireFox 3.0 and so far I do not see >> any problems. However we only have it installed and not much content >> there yet. >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 10:06 AM >> To: NT System Admin Issues >> Subject: Re: Firefox 3.0 Download Day >> >> If you consider how many companies in the past screwed themselves by >> being locked into the Lotus Notes framework, you would be wise to make >> such considerations about other limited-compatibility products as >> well. >> >> Even if Lotus Notes worked for you, there was a continuous financial >> investment that likely could have been better invested elsewhere at a >> certain point. >> >> I'm not nay-saying the value of Sharepoint, but Kurt makes a point >> that you should consider. Microsoft's continued stance in not >> supporting browser compatibility is quite shortsighted. >> >> I know from security testing that I would definitely prefer my users >> to use Firefox. I wish I could be complacent in the use of IE, but its >> just not practical in my organization where I have to allow my users >> to investigate information online. >> >> This directly translates to home use - which is where the majority of >> the worlds phishing/trojan/zombie issues now lay. >> >> >> >> On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 10:49 AM, Tim Vander Kooi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >> > Ban SharePoint because it doesn't work with 3rd party browsers? That's >> just not a real bright statement. SharePoint solves business problems, >> browsers don't. >> > >> > And it certainly is not Microsoft's only way of making money. >> > Tim >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 12:47 AM >> > To: NT System Admin Issues >> > Subject: Re: Firefox 3.0 Download Day >> > >> > I think it would instead be a reason why SharePoint would be banned >> > from your network... >> > >> > After all, any vendor whose only way of making a buck is to get >> > customers locked in by destroying compatibility with standards >> > shouldn't be encouraged, now should it? >> > >> > Heh. >> > >> > On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 9:23 PM, Don Ely <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> SharePoint is most certainly not FF friendly which is why FF will be >> banned >> >> from our network... >> >> >> >> On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 12:36 PM, Ben Schorr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> Do all sites work in it? That's been my problem with Firefox >> >>> traditionally - I too often had to use IE to use sites I needed to >> use. So >> >>> I just figured the heck with it - if I'm in IE half the time anyhow >> it >> >>> doesn't make sense for me to maintain a separate browser. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Ben M. Schorr >> >>> Chief Executive Officer >> >>> ______________________________________________ >> >>> Roland Schorr & Tower >> >>> www.rolandschorr.com >> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >>> Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 9:31 AM >> >>> To: NT System Admin Issues >> >>> Subject: Re: Firefox 3.0 Download Day >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Firefox 3.0 downloaded & installed on my laptop. Seems to be much >> much >> >>> faster loading, and so far not hogging system resources. >> >>> >> >>> On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 2:14 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> Yeah, but is that? Like $5? >> >>> >> >>> -----Original Message----- >> >>> >> >>> From: Rod Trent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >>> >> >>> Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 3:09 PM >> >>> To: NT System Admin Issues >> >>> Subject: RE: Firefox 3.0 Download Day >> >>> >> >>> Doh! >> >>> >> >>> I guess we were grandfathered, then. >> >>> >> >>> -----Original Message----- >> >>> From: Chris Blair [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >>> Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 3:04 PM >> >>> To: NT System Admin Issues >> >>> Subject: RE: Firefox 3.0 Download Day >> >>> >> >>> The Wii Internet Channel is now 500 points. It was free in the >> 'beta' >> >>> phase, but they started charging for it after it went final. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> http://www.nintendo.com/wii/channels >> >>> >> >>> -----Original Message----- >> >>> From: Rod Trent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >>> Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 1:59 PM >> >>> To: NT System Admin Issues >> >>> Subject: RE: Firefox 3.0 Download Day >> >>> >> >>> Yep...just add the Internet channel. >> >>> >> >>> -----Original Message----- >> >>> From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >>> Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 2:53 PM >> >>> To: NT System Admin Issues >> >>> Subject: RE: Firefox 3.0 Download Day >> >>> >> >>> LOL >> >>> I thought you had to pay to get a browser on the Wii? >> >>> Do you mean you just add the internet channel? >> >>> I will have to check on this tonight. >> >>> Surfing the net on a 55" LCD will be..um..interesting. >> >>> LOL >> >>> >> >>> -----Original Message----- >> >>> >> >>> From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >>> Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 2:50 PM >> >>> To: NT System Admin Issues >> >>> Subject: Re: Firefox 3.0 Download Day >> >>> >> >>> fee for the wii? brb, gotta go pee... >> >>> >> >>> On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 2:43 PM, David Mazzaccaro >> >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> > No fee? >> >>> > >> >>> > -----Original Message----- >> >>> > From: Rod Trent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >>> > Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 2:22 PM >> >>> > To: NT System Admin Issues >> >>> > Subject: RE: Firefox 3.0 Download Day >> >>> > >> >>> > Yep. The Wii "Internet Channel" is awesome. You use the Wii >> wireless >> >>> > controllers to surf the web. Opera installs when you choose to >> load >> >>> the >> >>> > Internet channel. >> >>> > >> >>> > -----Original Message----- >> >>> > From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >>> > Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 2:14 PM >> >>> > To: NT System Admin Issues >> >>> > Subject: RE: Firefox 3.0 Download Day >> >>> > >> >>> > "Opera on the Wii" >> >>> > - Is this free? >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > -----Original Message----- >> >>> > From: Rod Trent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >>> > Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 2:10 PM >> >>> > To: NT System Admin Issues >> >>> > Subject: RE: Firefox 3.0 Download Day >> >>> > >> >>> > Mozilla.com is down. >> >>> > >> >>> > BTW: If you want Firefox 3.0 now, here's the URL: >> >>> > >> >>> > http://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-3.0&os=win&lang=en-GB >> >>> > >> >>> > Remember, though, while you can get it now using this URL, it >> won't >> >>> > count >> >>> > toward the World record unless you wait a while and download from >> the >> >>> > primary download page. >> >>> > >> >>> > Our kids surf the Internet at home using Opera on the Wii. >> >>> > >> >>> > -----Original Message----- >> >>> > From: Christopher J. Bosak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >>> > Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 2:03 PM >> >>> > To: NT System Admin Issues >> >>> > Subject: RE: Firefox 3.0 Download Day >> >>> > >> >>> > There are some of us that browse the internet at home for >> >>> entertainment, >> >>> > you >> >>> > know. >> >>> > All work and no play makes be get a job at the post office. >> >>> > >> >>> > Christopher J. Bosak >> >>> > Vector Company >> >>> > c. 847.603.4673 >> >>> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >>> > >> >>> > "You need to install an RTFM Interface, due to an LBNC issue." >> >>> > - B.O.F.H. (Merged 2 into 1) - Me >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > -----Original Message----- >> >>> > From: Rod Trent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >>> > Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 12:02 hrs >> >>> > To: NT System Admin Issues >> >>> > Subject: RE: Firefox 3.0 Download Day >> >>> > >> >>> > That could be true. I only visit web sites that allow me to do my >> >>> job. >> >>> > >> >>> > -----Original Message----- >> >>> > From: Mike Gill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >>> > Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 12:32 PM >> >>> > To: NT System Admin Issues >> >>> > Subject: RE: Firefox 3.0 Download Day >> >>> > >> >>> > Well, I'm a Moz fan and do promote FF to people when the >> conversation >> >>> is >> >>> > going that way. I don't really care what people use, I just don't >> want >> >>> > them >> >>> > (i.e. most folk) to use IE. You say you've never been hi-jacked or >> >>> > scripted, >> >>> > and I assume you mean you're browser's never been compromised in >> any >> >>> > way. I >> >>> > guess that also means your minimalists tendencies expand into what >> >>> > websites >> >>> > you visit too, because there are quite a few sites out there you >> *just >> >>> > don't >> >>> > visit* using IE. FF and Opera et al are not immune, but IMO IE is >> the >> >>> > single >> >>> > biggest security hole in Windows, years running. >> >>> > >> >>> > -- >> >>> > Mike Gill >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> >> -----Original Message----- >> >>> >> From: Rod Trent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >>> >> Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 8:11 AM >> >>> >> To: NT System Admin Issues >> >>> >> Subject: RE: Firefox 3.0 Download Day >> >>> >> >> >>> >> YMMV, I believe, too. >> >>> >> >> >>> >> Personally, I've not seen the substance. I get frustrated with >> >>> >> technology >> >>> >> pretty easily if it doesn't work the way I do. And, when that >> >>> happens >> >>> >> it >> >>> >> comes off the PC fairly quickly. I treat my computer as >> something >> >>> >> critical >> >>> >> to my well being. If I feel an application is just taking up >> space, >> >>> >> instead >> >>> >> of providing value to me, I don't keep it there. I've downloaded >> FF >> >>> > so >> >>> >> many >> >>> >> times, and removed it within a day of installation. >> >>> >> >> >>> >> As for security -- I've never been hijacked, or scripted. No >> Maxthon >> >>> >> here. >> >>> >> Again, I'm a software minimalist. Maxthon adds features that >> I'll >> >>> >> never >> >>> >> use. I just want to work. >> >>> >> >> >>> >> I might agree with the view of FF, if it weren't for Opera. >> Opera >> >>> > kind >> >>> >> of >> >>> >> puts the whole hype versus value to rest. Just my opinion. >> >>> >> >> >>> >> -----Original Message----- >> >>> >> From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >>> >> Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 10:35 AM >> >>> >> To: NT System Admin Issues >> >>> >> Subject: Re: Firefox 3.0 Download Day >> >>> >> >> >>> >> I think the success of Firefox has gone way beyond hype at this >> >>> point. >> >>> >> And, I have posted here multiple times on my comparisons of IE >> >>> memory >> >>> >> use vs. Firefox; the majority of those tests have been negative >> to >> >>> IE. >> >>> >> >> >>> >> I wasnt looking to get into YABA, but while FF only gets better, >> IE >> >>> >> only gets worse. Its only saving grace in the past few years has >> >>> been >> >>> >> add-ons like Maxthon. >> >>> >> >> >>> >> Security-wise, I can point you to plenty of sites that will >> exploit >> >>> >> the hell out of IE but cant to FF. >> >>> >> >> >>> >> I dont appreciate the Mac-zealot style of hype that FF users >> promote >> >>> - >> >>> >> but the hype has substance. >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 10:08 AM, Rod Trent >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >>> >> wrote: >> >>> >> > Nah, I just don't like to use things based on hype. >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > I know, I know. Hype pretty much runs the industry these days >> (ex. >> >>> >> iPhone), >> >>> >> > but following the crowd gives me a bad feeling. >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > Plus, I've never had much luck with Firefox, so I don't see the >> >>> >> benefit. >> >>> >> > It's slow, eats away at memory, etc. >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > Now, Opera, on the other hand. No hype. Great product. >> That's >> >>> the >> >>> >> only >> >>> >> > 3rd party browser I would recommend. >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > -----Original Message----- >> >>> >> > From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >>> >> > Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 9:53 AM >> >>> >> > To: NT System Admin Issues >> >>> >> > Subject: Re: Firefox 3.0 Download Day >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > Because Rod doesn't like anyone to use anything non-Microsoft. >> It >> >>> >> > scares him. ;-) >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 9:43 AM, Martin Blackstone >> >>> >> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> >> >> Why? Seriously. Why? >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >>> >> >> From: Rod Trent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >>> >> >> Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 5:55 AM >> >>> >> >> To: NT System Admin Issues >> >>> >> >> Subject: RE: Firefox 3.0 Download Day >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> Don't do it. >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> Like sheep to the slaughter. >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >>> >> >> From: Peter van Houten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >>> >> >> Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 7:53 AM >> >>> >> >> To: NT System Admin Issues >> >>> >> >> Subject: Firefox 3.0 Download Day >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> Today is supposed to be the official release day for Firefox >> 3.0 >> >>> > and >> >>> >> >> Mozilla are trying to set a record for the number of >> downloads. >> >>> > The >> >>> >> >> Firefox home page is slightly out of date but the full 3.0 >> >>> download >> >>> >> is >> >>> >> >> here for those that are interested: >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> ftp://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/3.0 >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja! >> ~ >> >>> >> >> ~ <http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm> >> ~ >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja! >> ~ >> >>> >> >> ~ <http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm> >> ~ >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja! >> ~ >> >>> >> >> ~ <http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm> >> ~ >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > -- >> >>> >> > ME2 >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja! >> ~ >> >>> >> > ~ <http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm> >> ~ >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja! >> ~ >> >>> >> > ~ <http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm> >> ~ >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> -- >> >>> >> ME2 >> >>> >> >> >>> >> ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja! ~ >> >>> >> ~ <http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm> ~ >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja! ~ >> >>> >> ~ <http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm> ~ >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja! ~ >> >>> > ~ <http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm> ~ >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja! ~ >> >>> > ~ <http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm> ~ >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja! ~ >> >>> > ~ <http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm> ~ >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja! ~ >> >>> > ~ <http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm> ~ >> >>> > >> >>> > ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja! ~ >> >>> > ~ <http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm> ~ >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja! ~ >> >>> > ~ <http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm> ~ >> >>> > >> >>> > ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja! ~ >> >>> > ~ <http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm> ~ >> >>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> ME2 >> >>> >> >>> ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja! ~ >> >>> ~ <http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm> ~ >> >>> >> >>> ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja! ~ >> >>> ~ <http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm> ~ >> >>> >> >>> ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja! ~ >> >>> ~ <http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm> ~ >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> This e-mail is confidential and may be privileged and/or >> proprietary. 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